Big Headed suzuki owners
Jun 6, 2003 | 05:54 AM
#34
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The replacement for displacement is ENGINEERING EFFICIENCY!! When you can milk 50+ horsepower out of a 450, that is efficiency. No longer do you need the bulk of a big bore, to do the job. You can DO MORE WITH LESS!!
That said, by their very nature, a high strung smaller engine isn't going to have the durability of a big bore. For the desert, I would pick an XR650 based quad in a minute, over a high strung 450. The XR has proven itself over and over again in desert racing. But for trail riding or MX, I prefer the reved out nature of a modern, high strung 400-450 class engine. With the advantage, that you can keep the bike smaller and lighter.
That said, by their very nature, a high strung smaller engine isn't going to have the durability of a big bore. For the desert, I would pick an XR650 based quad in a minute, over a high strung 450. The XR has proven itself over and over again in desert racing. But for trail riding or MX, I prefer the reved out nature of a modern, high strung 400-450 class engine. With the advantage, that you can keep the bike smaller and lighter.
Jun 6, 2003 | 08:24 AM
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a "high-strung" motor can be just as reliable if you build the motor properly. Put a durable piston in it with an oversized rod, and you should have no real problems keeping the motor together. You guys are so proud of your 50 horses out of a 450 4-stroke. Try 100+ horses out of a 440 2-stroke. I totally agree though. The replacement to displacement is KNOWLEDGE!
Jun 6, 2003 | 11:06 AM
#36
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I'm gonna go race my sister's Suzuki 160 against a DS 650 and then criticize the DS because it ONLY WON BY 100 YARDS. lol [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-happy.gif[/img] [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-wink.gif[/img] Oh well, I guess that's the way it works these days.
Jun 6, 2003 | 11:31 AM
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Originally posted by: Polarisman3210
crfracer,
So your telling me, by going from your title, that because I bought a Vinson, i'm big headed?
I'll be damn if i'm gonna have someone put me down for buying what I wanted, I earn every bit of the money that I paid for it, by god I deserve to buy whatever the hell I want, and it doesnt matter what the hell you have to say about it.
this thing has been the best damn quad I have ever owned, but just because you now feel bad because you bought a 400ex and it's not as good as the z400, you gotta put other people down for it.
Hey, you wanted a 400ex, by god you should have one, but listen to me $hit ***, dont tell me what the hell i need to buy, keep your damn disrespectful comments to yourself, or i'll shove them up your *** along with the ex.
crfracer,
So your telling me, by going from your title, that because I bought a Vinson, i'm big headed?
I'll be damn if i'm gonna have someone put me down for buying what I wanted, I earn every bit of the money that I paid for it, by god I deserve to buy whatever the hell I want, and it doesnt matter what the hell you have to say about it.
this thing has been the best damn quad I have ever owned, but just because you now feel bad because you bought a 400ex and it's not as good as the z400, you gotta put other people down for it.
Hey, you wanted a 400ex, by god you should have one, but listen to me $hit ***, dont tell me what the hell i need to buy, keep your damn disrespectful comments to yourself, or i'll shove them up your *** along with the ex.
Jun 6, 2003 | 12:15 PM
#39
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It's one thing to rag on other people's quads when yours is BETTER than theirs, but when yours isn't as fast and you go talking about someone else's quad because it only beat you by a small amount, there's something kinda wrong. I guess that would mean that my Warrior is better than a 400EX because it would only lose by a little. [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-wink.gif[/img] [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-confused.gif[/img]
Jun 6, 2003 | 12:37 PM
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The point i that they are all trying to make about the raptor is that everyone talks about how much better they are but the engine is 260cc bigger than the 400ex. The Warrior and the ex are comparable because there is only a 50cc difference. Point being that with 260cc extra they should leave us so far behind that we would not be eating dust because it would already have settled. The whole point of this thread was talking about people on z400s bashing the ex when there is not a real big difference except for reverse and liquid cooled.