Who in their right mind is now going to buy a 400EX when it sucks as a trail quad (no reverse) and is not even close to being competitive as a race quad? The 450R is now their flagship and the 300EX has more features. Why would anyone pick a 400EX over the Z-400 and clones?

 

well I think the 400ex still has its place. I mean, It does perform well although it isn't going to will any drag races these days. Also, it may have the same msrp as a Z400 but we all know that dealers are going to be marking down the ex's like crazy. A slightly used, somewhat modified 400ex might sell for as low as 3k. That's a great deal for someone who needs a very reliable quick bike and is on a budget. My 400ex is highly modified and competes very well against raptors though it won't beat a banshee, yfz, or 450r

 

I wouldn't consider the 400EX to be a machine that sucks by any means. It handles good and runs as good as a person wants it to. The modifications that are available for it are basicly limitless. It doesn't have reverse.... So what!! I consider that to be part of my excersize plan!!! Getting off of a 400 pound machine and moving it to where it needs to be is a cardio vascular excersize..Isn't it??? I would be very interested in the 450 but since I've damaged my knee over the years with 4 stroke kick starters, I don't think I'll be running back to them anytime soon. Hell I ran away from them!!!! Or should I say hobbled away.... The 400 ex is still a hell of a good machine. Obviously you didn't grow up when 185s' were the hot machine. Perspective my friend!!!!

 

The price of my 465 just went down no doubt...that's why I'm going to keep it. It's worth more to me than 3 g's. It's not the fastest 4 stroke I've ridden but it beat a few YZF's, Raptors, Pred's, DS's, Cdale's, Z's, R's, Banshee's..ect. I like the idea of the underdog winning. Throw money at them and they will go.

 

guys just because the 450r is out desent mean the 400ex cant compete on the track they are still fast on the track and will be for along time I think you will still see them competing out there and doing well they are still competing with the yfz why cant they compete with the 450r?

 

The 400EX is the bargain performance bike, or the king of the sport bikes, you take your pick! It is a GREAT DEAL for an entry level rider. Honda should lower the MSRP (rather than rely on sproadic dealer discounts), to make it competitive with the Z400.

I see the 300EX gone at some time in the future (REPLACED BY A TRX250R I HOPE!), because it overlaps with both the 250EX and 400EX.

 

400ex isn't leaving. They can make them competitively priced and they still have electric start.

/Jon

 

Right on!

If they'll add reverse and lower the price, the 400EX will be THE perfect sport and trail quad. As it is, it is still an awesome bike.

Don't get up in the hype of all these new machines. It's still all about having fun and the 400EX delivers that as well as anything.

 

well how much faster will the 450r be than the 400ex? well considering that it only has 50 more cc,s i might be 5 mph faster at the most. they both weigh the same, well 25 pounds less but thats nothing, both are 1 cylinder and only one carb. so they are like getting 5 mph more than the 400ex and there is no eletric start. i think they need to step up there game alot bigger than that.

 

Some things to consider:

Honda is a business. They will sell something as long as it is profitable.

Tooling and R&D for the EX400 have been paid for. It costs them nothing in those areas now, and they can build them for cheap. They can lower the price and still make money.

In the overall buying public, a tiny percentage actually race. A guy in Lame Deer MT just might not be concerned about lap times that he'll never do as much as saving a grand on the purchase price compared to a 450.

Look at Yamaha. All these new machines and they continue to make the Warrior which was first produced just after the civil war. It's a good value.