I just think that people shouldn't waste their time posting a topic asking "is this faster than the 450R or is the 450R faster than that?" It's not even out yet, no one knows what it's like so there is absolutely no point in posting the topic at all. Your going to get the same reply every time. "It's not out yet, so no one knows for sure." Like I said, I am not trying to **** anyone off so don't take it so seriously.

 

Mostly I was trying to be ironic! The 450 dirt bike has been out a couple of years, so it is valid to make some inferences about performance based on that. They said it is a replacement for the 250R, so we can make some inferences about handling. We all know Honda real well, so we can infer stuff from that too, etc, etc.