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HELP! Buy the rubicon or keep the sp500

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Old Jul 21, 2000 | 05:44 PM
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Greg,

I believe one off the quads was a '97 & the other was a '98 or '99. I can't find the post on the forum.

That would be interesting to see the out come after doing a little mud riding.
 
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Old Jul 21, 2000 | 08:01 PM
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Greg is correct.Soak them drums up one afternoon in the water/mud,than tell me who's stop better?I did'nt see the post your refering to,but NO drums for this ole boy.===Bill
 
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Old Jul 21, 2000 | 10:14 PM
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Search for posts by Rooster. He owns several brands of ATVs.
 
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Old Jul 21, 2000 | 11:55 PM
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Greg, it sounds like you're being demoted again. So how's it in the first grade for the third time?
Chuck, Suzuki KQ 300, GPS & lunch...
 
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Old Jul 22, 2000 | 10:29 PM
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Gregsims, that's a very good idea you have there. If it came down to which machine's brakes performed better after riding in mud and water, then the Foreman would win easily. I don't know what the hell Polaris riders have against drum brakes, but they obviously have never ridden a Honda ATV with drum brakes. Any of you Sportsman 500 owners out there: have any of you ever replaced the brakes in your machine? Any of you Foreman owners out there: have you ever replaced the brakes in your machine? I think I know which machine eats breaks faster. After the last trailride we went on where we rode all day on Sunday in on and off thunderstorms, with wet sand trails, I would easily trust drum brakes to stop me over disc in these conditions. Because of that one ride, with sand grinding on the brake pads, our '97 Sportsman just got new brake pads put in, my 300EX's brakes lost half the life they had before the ride, as did my bro's 400EX. My Uncle's Xplorer 500's brakes were shot after this ride, and my other bro's '99 Sportsman lost a lot of life too. After I replaced the brakes in our Sportsman, I saw huge grooves in the old brake pads from the sand and grit from riding that day. The one machine with drum brakes WAS NOT affected by these conditions, and since it's totally sealed, never faded and didn't lose any brake life. So what the hell is so great about disc brakes?

As for all the other fiction stories of the Rubicon, I think before anyone voices there opinion on it they should ride it first! Ours is coming in next week!
 
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Old Jul 23, 2000 | 11:46 AM
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Rooster and I have had it out on the drum brake vs disk brake issue before.I respect his opionion,but I just dont agree with it.I've personally had nothing but problems with drum style brakes.

On the other hand,I see his point to.He has had no problems with the drum style brakes.Does it make him right or me wrong?Go with what you feel is right,There is no right or wrong.====Bill
 
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Old Jul 23, 2000 | 07:55 PM
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My sp500 sold on wednesday,but it will be a month or two before I can afford to buy my rubi. The overall fit and feel of the rubicon was just awsome and the low end was incredible I just had to do the deal and get one. I'll let you know when I get it.
 
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Old Jul 24, 2000 | 12:40 AM
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Rooster,
I have owned upwards of around 20 Honda ATCs and ATVs. The mootors were awsome and I was pleased for the most part. However, it has been my experience that how and where I ride (IN Water and Mud) , the brakes on the Honda's front wheels last only a few rides then become contaminated with the grease used to seal the hubs. The back seal up better but still lose their effectiveness. My SP500 pads may wear out quicker but they always work when I need them.

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Old Jul 24, 2000 | 10:09 AM
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The disc vs. drum deal always seems to show its ugly head! Its like the shift vs. auto deal, its a matter of personal opinion. Thats why Honda put both shifting options on the Ruby.
Now if they would have only put disc brakes on the front and drums in the rear! Then everyone would be happy and half mad. he he
 
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Old Jul 24, 2000 | 12:55 PM
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I respect all of your opinions on the drum vs. disc argument. The only problems with drum brakes that I've experienced is on our old '94 Suzuki King Quad. They were sealed very poorly. The Honda ones seem to all be sealed extremely well. Our Foreman now has 1600 miles on it and the brakes work just as good as when it had 10 miles on it. Our '81 Honda 185S threewheeler's front brakes still worked fine after 15 years of riding! And they never got contaminated either! I think Honda knows how to seal their brakes up, and now they say they're triple sealed. I suppose you will hear problems with Honda's drum brakes, but for the most part, they are sealed very well. We've never had any problems with 'em. I guess you should look on the bright side: Honda could have given the Rubicon mechanical band brakes all the way around!
 
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