400ex vs. Z400
Mar 22, 2005 | 03:31 PM
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400ex vs. Z400
Originally posted by: motox26
I own both, some of you guys that are defending Z's are giving it a little to much credit than it is worth. And some of you guys with ex's are acting like it is more of a performer than it is.
Basically the ex is better on tighter trails and the Z is better on a more open trail. The ex has a stiffer suspension and that makes it a bit more stable. I will say the ex is built a bit better and you will spend less money keeping it up.
BUT, truth be told a Z400 is a better performer than the EX and keep in mind I even like Honda better than the rest. They are simular, but there power delivery is different. The Z will come on more aggressive and it IS a bit more powerful and does respond a bit more to mods. The Z's power plant definately has more potential if you were to dump a bunch a money into it.
Most of Z and EX owners are trail riders, and for the trails there will be not much of a difference and both are fine. But if we are talking performance, the Z is better at it motor wise, the only thing killing the EX is the engine in the high performance catagory. It is a perfect hi-po trail engine and great for most, but it is not a race engine. And for those of you saying a stock vs. stock or mod vs mod EX is beating a Z, then you are either simply telling stories to defend your quad, or the rider did not know what he is doing.
I own both, some of you guys that are defending Z's are giving it a little to much credit than it is worth. And some of you guys with ex's are acting like it is more of a performer than it is.
Basically the ex is better on tighter trails and the Z is better on a more open trail. The ex has a stiffer suspension and that makes it a bit more stable. I will say the ex is built a bit better and you will spend less money keeping it up.
BUT, truth be told a Z400 is a better performer than the EX and keep in mind I even like Honda better than the rest. They are simular, but there power delivery is different. The Z will come on more aggressive and it IS a bit more powerful and does respond a bit more to mods. The Z's power plant definately has more potential if you were to dump a bunch a money into it.
Most of Z and EX owners are trail riders, and for the trails there will be not much of a difference and both are fine. But if we are talking performance, the Z is better at it motor wise, the only thing killing the EX is the engine in the high performance catagory. It is a perfect hi-po trail engine and great for most, but it is not a race engine. And for those of you saying a stock vs. stock or mod vs mod EX is beating a Z, then you are either simply telling stories to defend your quad, or the rider did not know what he is doing.
Suzuki did to the Z like they do to almost all of there machines, take a Honda model and slightly upgrade it. Is it a easy way out, yes, but it is good business and gives us more to choose from. The trade off is a little less reliability for a little more performance. A Z is basically a updated EX.
Mar 22, 2005 | 03:34 PM
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400ex vs. Z400
Originally posted by: Raptorlegs
I think that's due to the water cooling.
Come on down here and I'll spank your lil a$$ on that Z!
...but I wanna borrow the 440 to do it! [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-happy.gif[/img] [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-wink.gif[/img]
Originally posted by: motox26
The Z's power plant definately has more potential if you were to dump a bunch a money into it.
The Z's power plant definately has more potential if you were to dump a bunch a money into it.
Come on down here and I'll spank your lil a$$ on that Z!
...but I wanna borrow the 440 to do it! [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-happy.gif[/img] [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-wink.gif[/img]
LOL, well, the 440 will take care of the Z. But lets throw a 440 kit and cams in the Z and run em. Now what cha got![img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-shocked.gif[/img][img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-wink.gif[/img]
Mar 22, 2005 | 03:37 PM
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400ex vs. Z400
Originally posted by: motox26But lets throw a 440 kit and cams in the Z and run em. Now what cha got![img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-shocked.gif[/img][img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-wink.gif[/img]
Mar 22, 2005 | 04:05 PM
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400ex vs. Z400
Originally posted by: Raptorlegs
A extra quad you want to sell cheap to me? [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-happy.gif[/img]
Originally posted by: motox26But lets throw a 440 kit and cams in the Z and run em. Now what cha got![img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-shocked.gif[/img][img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-wink.gif[/img]
LOL, you got a bit of a drive to come get one. I don't even know what to sell. I have so many good memories on the ex. Even ones when the EX served as a bed/bench for those late night romances.[img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-wink.gif[/img]
Mar 22, 2005 | 04:20 PM
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From: Oeste Del Tejas
400ex vs. Z400
Originally posted by: motox26 Even ones when the EX served as a bed/bench for those late night romances.[img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-wink.gif[/img]
Mar 22, 2005 | 04:39 PM
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400ex vs. Z400
Originally posted by: Raptorlegs
lol! Stained seats? Don't know how ya do it, I find it kinda hard to switch gears without that free hand! [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-happy.gif[/img]
Originally posted by: motox26 Even ones when the EX served as a bed/bench for those late night romances.[img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-wink.gif[/img]
Mar 22, 2005 | 04:45 PM
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ROFLMAO, it is sad. This thread has actually turned around for the better. The Z vs. EX stuff is just crap. At least this is funny!
I tell ya what Raptorlegs, if you give a reach around I'll let you have a good deal on my stain seated quad[img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-shocked.gif[/img]
I tell ya what Raptorlegs, if you give a reach around I'll let you have a good deal on my stain seated quad[img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-shocked.gif[/img]
Mar 22, 2005 | 04:55 PM
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400ex vs. Z400
I dunno , you may have to buck him pretty good to get him to give ya reach around, he is from the south ya know.[img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-shocked.gif[/img][img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-wink.gif[/img]
Mar 22, 2005 | 05:10 PM
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400ex vs. Z400
Originally posted by: MrDumass
I dunno , you may have to buck him pretty good to get him to give ya reach around, he is from the south ya know.[img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-shocked.gif[/img][img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-wink.gif[/img]
I dunno , you may have to buck him pretty good to get him to give ya reach around, he is from the south ya know.[img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-shocked.gif[/img][img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-wink.gif[/img]
I might reach around that monkey of yours looking for some handles! [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-shocked.gif[/img] BUT I want pics of her frst! [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-wink.gif[/img]
Mar 22, 2005 | 09:26 PM
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400ex vs. Z400
Originally posted by: motox26
LOL, well, the 440 will take care of the Z. But lets throw a 440 kit and cams in the Z and run em. Now what cha got![img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-shocked.gif[/img][img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-wink.gif[/img]
Originally posted by: Raptorlegs
I think that's due to the water cooling.
Come on down here and I'll spank your lil a$$ on that Z!
...but I wanna borrow the 440 to do it! [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-happy.gif[/img] [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-wink.gif[/img]
Originally posted by: motox26
The Z's power plant definately has more potential if you were to dump a bunch a money into it.
The Z's power plant definately has more potential if you were to dump a bunch a money into it.
Come on down here and I'll spank your lil a$$ on that Z!
...but I wanna borrow the 440 to do it! [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-happy.gif[/img] [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-wink.gif[/img]
LOL, well, the 440 will take care of the Z. But lets throw a 440 kit and cams in the Z and run em. Now what cha got![img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-shocked.gif[/img][img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-wink.gif[/img]
I hope to actually have an answer to that basic 440/440 question in a few weeks. I have a friend that has a Z440 set up very similar to mine right down to the suspension (both are for XC etc) and it would be a good way to get info. Only real difference between them (unless he went and did something else or new etc) is that his is a little more geared towards hp where mine is more about torque. Should be interesting to see how they compare.