Hill climbing (not hillshooting)
Apr 28, 2005 | 09:31 PM
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Originally posted by: motox26
"And if you were to sit down on a 90 degree incline???? Come on bro. You don't really expect me to believe that do you??"
uh, yeah I do. I don't mean this to be disrespectfull, but if you don't have the intelligance to understand that, then I might as well debate with the wall. Your not going to get traction leaning forward, I don't why that is so hard to understand, on a sport quad anyway.
And using body english is not just leaning over the bars, it is positioning your body to where you need the most traction, depending on the ruts, bumps, etc. You use throttle control to keep the front end down, cause withput traction, you ain't never going to make it up!
LOL, and yes I believe we are talking about different types of hills, considering you don't think you can climb a 90 degree hill and make it stick. But when you do climb a 90 degree and shoot off the top, then you want to lean over the bars so you don't freefall back down, especially on a dirtbike.
Inexperienced guys hang over the bars, I used to at first to out of fear, but after a while I would think every competent mind would learn. LOL[img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-wink.gif[/img]
"And if you were to sit down on a 90 degree incline???? Come on bro. You don't really expect me to believe that do you??"
uh, yeah I do. I don't mean this to be disrespectfull, but if you don't have the intelligance to understand that, then I might as well debate with the wall. Your not going to get traction leaning forward, I don't why that is so hard to understand, on a sport quad anyway.
And using body english is not just leaning over the bars, it is positioning your body to where you need the most traction, depending on the ruts, bumps, etc. You use throttle control to keep the front end down, cause withput traction, you ain't never going to make it up!
LOL, and yes I believe we are talking about different types of hills, considering you don't think you can climb a 90 degree hill and make it stick. But when you do climb a 90 degree and shoot off the top, then you want to lean over the bars so you don't freefall back down, especially on a dirtbike.
Inexperienced guys hang over the bars, I used to at first to out of fear, but after a while I would think every competent mind would learn. LOL[img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-wink.gif[/img]
Perhaps the kinds of hills you guys climb are a lot different than the hills I climb (tree shots at the dunes). For the holes I have to come out of, without an extended swingarm, you have to lean over the handlebars, or you are not going to make it out, AND you have to have a high powered ATV to get out (minimum 2nd gear pinned).
As far as being scared to be seated, that is not the issue here. I started out being seated, but when you back off the throttle, you bury it and are stuck on the hill. I had to change my technique (with the shorter stock swingarm, to make it up.
Sure you lose some traction leaning over the handlebars, but you keep it from going over backwards. Too much traction and you go over.
If you ever come down to the Oregon dunes, I'll be more than happy to let you try to come out of some of these holes with your butt attached to the seat. [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-wink.gif[/img]
Apr 28, 2005 | 11:33 PM
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i just got my 400 a week ago and started climbing some good sized hills today. im not too crazy about climbing hills because most around here that im willing to take are all rutted out to begin with. i will agree with all of you that climbing a new hill the first time is a huge rush, and is by far the funnest thing to do on any type of quad. my friend amost rolled his new 05 400ex today. right at the top of a hill it started to sputter out so he hit first and pinned it (damn newbie) stood it up and the bike just barely shot over the top of the hill. he ended up on his *** and rolled back down the hill about 15 feet. luckily he was ok and same with the quad.
Apr 29, 2005 | 09:29 AM
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TheTurtel, 2 weeks after I bought my 01's 400ex about 4-5 years ago I rolled it back down a powerline hill. Made me sick to my stomach, luckily all it did was bend the leves around a little bit. Funny thing is, out of 4-5 years of owning it, that was my worst wreck on it after only 2 weeks of owning it.[img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-blush.gif[/img]
2fun, one thing I just realized, it seems you are only talking about climbing sand hills? I don't have much time in sand so I can't comment, but I would still think momentum would be key in any hill.
And do to the added drag, you probably couldn't climb hills 90 degrees in sand without a heck of a run. I have been talking dirt here.
2fun, one thing I just realized, it seems you are only talking about climbing sand hills? I don't have much time in sand so I can't comment, but I would still think momentum would be key in any hill.
And do to the added drag, you probably couldn't climb hills 90 degrees in sand without a heck of a run. I have been talking dirt here.
Apr 29, 2005 | 12:05 PM
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Originally posted by: motox26
2fun, one thing I just realized, it seems you are only talking about climbing sand hills? I don't have much time in sand so I can't comment, but I would still think momentum would be key in any hill.
And do to the added drag, you probably couldn't climb hills 90 degrees in sand without a heck of a run. I have been talking dirt here.
2fun, one thing I just realized, it seems you are only talking about climbing sand hills? I don't have much time in sand so I can't comment, but I would still think momentum would be key in any hill.
And do to the added drag, you probably couldn't climb hills 90 degrees in sand without a heck of a run. I have been talking dirt here.
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Apr 29, 2005 | 12:29 PM
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If Im going slow and it starts to tip, then even I lean over then. But normally I got her to the wood!
If Im going slow and it starts to tip, then even I lean over then. But normally I got her to the wood!
Apr 29, 2005 | 06:24 PM
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Ok, back to the topic. Hillclimbing is one of my favorite things to do. Especially the technical ones that either have very limited launching room, or have jumps and/or winding turns as you go up. Do or die hillclimbs. Those are fun There are also some dunes out in the Glamis area that are like piles of sand where you are practically hitting a wall at the bottom.
Out west here, we have a little [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-wink.gif[/img] area called the Cinders, in AZ as someone mentioned. These are really the granddaddy of hillclimbs that I know of, with 500 - 1000 ft steep, tough hillclimbs. Most people use paddles, because it is loose volcanic pebbles. Not to mention a high altitude so you lose power and need to rejet to make the best of it. If you think you've seen the biggest hills, you really need to go here. It's fun.
Cinder Hills - Flagstaff AZ
PS. I have a few pics in my profile.
Out west here, we have a little [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-wink.gif[/img] area called the Cinders, in AZ as someone mentioned. These are really the granddaddy of hillclimbs that I know of, with 500 - 1000 ft steep, tough hillclimbs. Most people use paddles, because it is loose volcanic pebbles. Not to mention a high altitude so you lose power and need to rejet to make the best of it. If you think you've seen the biggest hills, you really need to go here. It's fun.
Cinder Hills - Flagstaff AZ
PS. I have a few pics in my profile.
Apr 30, 2005 | 10:33 PM
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Originally posted by: RedGoblin
Hey Turtle, are there any really good public trails around these parts?
Hey Turtle, are there any really good public trails around these parts?
May 1, 2005 | 01:33 AM
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If I didn't hill climb, I wouldn't have anywhere to ride close to home. There is a (moderately active) earthquake fault in the hills behind me, and the climbs are darn near vertical. Lots of them have overhangs too, so you better not mess up or you are toast! They get rain ruts from the dirt bikes, which makes it even more of a challenge. After riding back there every day, all other terrain is nothing but childs play.
If you were an old timer and I said the names of some famous hill climbers from back in the day, they are all kids who grew up riding back there.
If you were an old timer and I said the names of some famous hill climbers from back in the day, they are all kids who grew up riding back there.