I couldn't care less about the z400, or 400ex. Buy what you want. You're getting screwed either way. For that money, your almost to the price of a 450.

 

And since when is pointing out shortcomings of a company, or machine, HATING them. Only a company man like your self would take it as such. Oh my god I said the yfz is better than 450r, I MUST HATE honda. I don't hate honda, I just don't think honda is the second coming of christ.

 

Now you don't care about either? I will buy what I want and being a trail rider I want reverse, along with performance and dependability. The 450's are race bikes (without reverse) requiring more maintenance and run less hours before rebuild. I don't get it, you've been pushing the Z but now I'm getting screwed either way. Can you stay on subject?

 

I said the z was the better performance machine. Yes I would pick a z over an ex. Trust me, I'll never have to make that desision.

 

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Now you don't care about either? I will buy what I want and being a trail rider I want reverse, along with performance and dependability.[quote]
Congradulations. Good for you, Maybe some other people want to ride some trails a little faster than you.

 

450 race bikes aren't for everyone. Utility 4 wheel drives aren't for everone. Companies make different bikes marketing to people with different needs and price ranges. The Z and EX is my niche in the market. You wouldn't buy a Z or EX, okay. A Banshee is definitely last on my list, and just about everybody else's list too.

 

It's been stimulating. I'm out for the night.

 

Ditto!

 

I just caught that last setence through sleepy eyes so....... I can tell you've never riden sand dunes. What can I say, I'm old school. I like classics. Give me a 69 mustang over a 06 mustang any day.

 

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Originally posted by: midnite
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Originally posted by: KyJoe340
Now you don't care about either? I will buy what I want and being a trail rider I want reverse, along with performance and dependability.Funny everybody with a shee talks chit but I don't have any trouble keeping up in the dunes. You can only go so fast on any machine without killing yourself. This arguement is pointless. Both the Z and EX have enough power to be fun but neither will be taken seriously as as a racer in stock form. But either would make a nice trail quad. Just because it doesn't suite your need midnite, doesn't mean it won't somebody elses.