doesany one know the weight,top spedd, horsepower ect... thanx

 

any one at all know

 

what year?

the 86-87 weighed the most at about 340+ pounds. (i got the book at home and wil gladly post it later) the 88-89 weighed about 10lbs less when honda redesigned it and discovered how to use aluminum...

honda first advertised the horsepower at 40 - before i start a war- remember, that was crank HP, not rear wheel. the last top speed i remember was about 72-75mph (it feels about like that). not really going to argue over that b/c it depends on your elevation, surface, wind, rider weight, etc. point is they are fast, light bikes that are extremely well balanced. IMHO, my 86 250R handles better than my '04 450R....just my preference i suppose (but the 450r is impressive and has better shocks and good engine).

the 86 is said to be the fastest yr b/c of the taller 6th gear than the 87-89 models. but after every year, especially the 86, there were significant changes to the engine/trans. with a total revamp of the machine in 88. the 86 is closest to the ATC250r (not quite the same though) out of all of them and in 89 they put a part of the clutch they used for the 86 models back on the 89 engine...

the 88 is the most sought after, the 89 is said to be the best of everything and ive heard to stay away from the 87. but, to me, if you find any year in good to excellent conditon, buy it.

they respond well to mods. a pipe, airfilter, radvalve reed cage are all i have on mine and it will stay with and beat stock to lightly modded raptors. it surprises alot of people.

try macdizzy.com for more info. i think that site still works.

if anyone else knows any facts, please join in.

 

I already have one, its a 1987 and has a esr pipe and silencer and a k&n filter. I also only weigh 104 pounds so i prolly could keep up with a lotta thgings. How are the 250r's compared to banshee's? thanx

 

well, judging by the seat of the pants feel, id have to say that the banshee is faster. no contest.

most people laugh and think im full of it when i say this, but that 2001 banshee i had was completely stock and it tore @ss! it beat alot of modded bikes. at the starting line it was laughed at, but when other bikes were blown away they could not beleive it. i couldnt either. it was the fastest stock basnshee i have ever ridden and my fam has owned several of them. some modded, some not.. maybe i just "got a good, exceptional one." it happens sometimes in any industry...i should've kept that bike, but had the 450R itch. stock, the 450R is probably as fast as my banshee was overall, even though i had to sell the banshee before i got the 450 and never lined them up to compare.

the 450 just hooks up and moves ahead, where the banshee would just spin all over the place before it got traction. the 250r will do it to an extent...but not as bad.

stock for stock, the 250R is no match for a banshee in a drag. but, mod the 250R right and it will be a better, closer race. on a track-the banshee cannot keep up with the handling of the 250R. you have to be one determined, overworked rider to make a banshee work on a track.

 

The 250r weighs 328 pounds. No way a stock 250r goes over 70 mph. Like all 2-strokes motors, the 250r really shines when modded. In a drag stock vs stock, and modded vs modded, the shee beats 250r in dirt, sand, or pavement. On the mx track, 250r is still the king IMO.

 

uhmm.. like i said, the EARLIER models weighed more.
you forgot the invention of aluminum that honda started using for the redesign in 1988? this and other things decreased the weight of the 88-89yrs, but i dont recall any year TRX being lighter than a quadracer 250...which were in the 325-328lb category after 86. Suzuki's 85-86 250 weighed 293lbs dry. honda got close to the 1987,88,89+, quadracers' weight, but the suzuki 250 was always lighter than the honda 250r.

and, yes way, the stock trx will go over a little 70. the '88 was clocked at 70-72 in 3/4wheel action when they took al the bikes to the drag strip. before you start the 'mags are rags' verbage, i dont know how old you are, but back in the 80s- the mags were NOT full of crap like they are now. they were more objective and factual.

i wont argue too much over suzukis, b/c ive never owned one but i will give credit where it is due...but ive been around the honda 250r since it was in ATC form, then trx form, and have one and love it.

the 86 was a little faster b/c of the tallest 6th gear out of the R's which would give it a +1/2mph advantage in flat out top speed.

but yes the 250r being a 2 stroke, responds well to mods (deja vue typing).
even slightly modded they rip pretty good. an all out modded R will smoke the living hell out of a banshee.

remember: power to weight ratio- never forget it. take light bike, lots of power. if you have same or less power in heavier bike; the heavier bike will be slower in almost every case.

yes, the R still owns the track.

 

Whats your point. I said trx 250r weighed 328 lbs. When did I say trx was lighter than lt250????? The 86 trx weighed 328lbs acording to dirt wheels.

 

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Originally posted by: twentycharacters
Yep.....A stock banshee. How does that "all out modded R" do against an "all out modded" banshee in a drag, considering a banshee can make 80 hp on pump gas with just pipes, 33 mm carbs, a 4mm stroker crank, and cheeta cub, or T-rex cylinders.

 

Dirt wheels said the 85 atc 250r went 68 mph. They also said in a straight line the 85 atc 250r was a little quicker and faster than the 86 trx, even tho they both share the exact same motor. Atc was lighter and had less rolling resistance due to 3 wheels instead of 4 wheels. I'm 36 and owned more trikes than anything, including an 84 kxt 250 tecate, and 85 atc 250r. Ok, I guess a trx will go 70 to 72 mph on pavement with 25 psi in the tires, not in real world off road riding.