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05-01-2006 | 10:15 AM
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The only problem with taking both out and comparing ride feel is that when they are both brand new they will both feel very nice and crisp, but the difference is after 6 or 8 months of riding them the more quality, reliability and the more dependable quad will when out. The only thing that driving them both new will show me is that the 700 Suzuki will be more powerful and that may sway me in the wrong direction.[/quote]
Suzuki's are fairly reliable....atleast the 2 that I have owned were. But your right! Honda's really start to show their worth once they get some age on them and you compare them to bikes of similar age, wear, and tear.. Other machines (not mentioning brands) become looser, as well as squecky and rattley. The Honda's remain tighter longer! Tight is good isn't it!
Suzuki's are fairly reliable....atleast the 2 that I have owned were. But your right! Honda's really start to show their worth once they get some age on them and you compare them to bikes of similar age, wear, and tear.. Other machines (not mentioning brands) become looser, as well as squecky and rattley. The Honda's remain tighter longer! Tight is good isn't it!
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05-01-2006 | 11:09 PM
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on the topic of power i have 27" 589's on my cte and she turns them no problem. as far as irs goes i think its a waste of time and money. if ur a true atv rider ulll never see it work. when the boys and me go out riding we dont go for speed we go to the bush and climb and go diggin.. i dont think the irs gives a bike anymore clearance either.. just like the other guy said as soon as u sit she squats and alot of the time below horizontal . most of the time when im stuck i get of to the side and push without using my winch as for my old 700 when ur stuck ur stuck.. they just weigh so much man. kmdad do u want a tank or and all terrain vehicle?
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2006 cte rubicon 500
27" 589's
front+back bumpers
2500 warn
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2006 cte rubicon 500
27" 589's
front+back bumpers
2500 warn
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05-03-2006 | 12:03 AM
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Originally posted by: PETE16
The CTE has plenty of bottem end....PERIOD! I've got 26" lites on mine and it handles them easily. Low in ESP 1 is low, but not quite as low as 1st gear in a Foreman. The CTE has a tad more displacement which makes up for it and Yes! it will pull like crazy. Do not listen to the BS about ground clearance advantages of the IRS machines. As soon as you put any weight on those IRS's they squat like sick mules, and your ground clearance adavnantage quickly dissappears. If you are indeed looking for dependable and capable, a Rubicon should work well for you. It will NOT embarass you when your running with larger machines. In fact, when your doing some pure hard core trail riding a CTE will likely out perform most big bores. My pal has a Grizz and I know I can out run him on trails....because of the CTE's handling (SRA), peppy throttle response, and shear nimbleness. Yes on a wide open flat those big bores will overpower you, but as I said a CTE performs very well in just about every catagory so you will not be embarrassed.
Originally posted by: kmdad
I didn't realize that the CTE had that much low end torque. I have heard people say that it could not turn 26 inch Mud Lites in mud where a 500 polaris would. So, help me understand, are you say that in ESP 1 it will pull like crazy or are you say in low D2. I did drive one and I can see what you are talking about for acceleration. Very, very impressive. And no I am not looking at a big bore machine. I am looking for a machine that is very dependable. That is number 1. I guess number 2 would be capable. I want a bike that will not embarrass me when I go out with guys that drive 500 cc and larger machines. So things like getting suck in mud because you can not spin the tires is not what I am looking for. Not been able to keep up because your machine is under powered. I don not need the biggest and badest, but I do want to know that in 5 years my quad has still lots of trail left in her. If I could get a 800 cc that was the most dependable thing on the market I would, but it seems to me that $10 000 for a ATV can not buy both. How ever, you seem to think that the 500 cc CTE is a very capable machine and because of the machine being so dependable it is a very good choice.
Originally posted by: PETE16
I don't know about comparing it to a 700, but that's not apples to apples. A CTE Rubicon has comparable power to any other 500. In fact it may have more bottem end torque then any other 500. I don't think anyone with a Rubicon would complain about it's power. It is what it is......a 500, not a big bore. as far as speed/accelaration goes, again very comparable to other 500's. I've beaten a 2004 polaris 500H.O in a drag (the only one I've ever raced) but also lost by about 8 lengths in the same drag to a 2004 Grizzly. However I would not expect to beat a Grizzly although I did take him out of the hole easily up to about 50kph, then his mid range took over and he left me. The CTE is more than competant in just about every catagory, especially pulling. In fact, it might just be one of the most versatile and well rounded quads there is. It's not the leader in many catagories but performs very well in every catagory, whereas many quads are more one dimensional. The entire bike is very dependable (it's a Honda), but it sounds to me like you are more interested in big bore power.
I don't know about comparing it to a 700, but that's not apples to apples. A CTE Rubicon has comparable power to any other 500. In fact it may have more bottem end torque then any other 500. I don't think anyone with a Rubicon would complain about it's power. It is what it is......a 500, not a big bore. as far as speed/accelaration goes, again very comparable to other 500's. I've beaten a 2004 polaris 500H.O in a drag (the only one I've ever raced) but also lost by about 8 lengths in the same drag to a 2004 Grizzly. However I would not expect to beat a Grizzly although I did take him out of the hole easily up to about 50kph, then his mid range took over and he left me. The CTE is more than competant in just about every catagory, especially pulling. In fact, it might just be one of the most versatile and well rounded quads there is. It's not the leader in many catagories but performs very well in every catagory, whereas many quads are more one dimensional. The entire bike is very dependable (it's a Honda), but it sounds to me like you are more interested in big bore power.
I didn't realize that the CTE had that much low end torque. I have heard people say that it could not turn 26 inch Mud Lites in mud where a 500 polaris would. So, help me understand, are you say that in ESP 1 it will pull like crazy or are you say in low D2. I did drive one and I can see what you are talking about for acceleration. Very, very impressive. And no I am not looking at a big bore machine. I am looking for a machine that is very dependable. That is number 1. I guess number 2 would be capable. I want a bike that will not embarrass me when I go out with guys that drive 500 cc and larger machines. So things like getting suck in mud because you can not spin the tires is not what I am looking for. Not been able to keep up because your machine is under powered. I don not need the biggest and badest, but I do want to know that in 5 years my quad has still lots of trail left in her. If I could get a 800 cc that was the most dependable thing on the market I would, but it seems to me that $10 000 for a ATV can not buy both. How ever, you seem to think that the 500 cc CTE is a very capable machine and because of the machine being so dependable it is a very good choice.
So, I guess when I get some bills under control, I'll that a look at buying a Rubicon. Thanks for the info and I'll post when I make my purchase.
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