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Old Nov 20, 2006 | 01:53 AM
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Originally posted by: reconranger
crazy-Not quite sure what you said there???? The CRF450X (enduro dirt bike) and the 06/07 TRX450R quad have virtually identical engines, except for gearing. So, this engine takes first place in both the dirt bike and quad categories!

The CRF450R motocross dirt bike, while it has a similar engine, does not have a frame that is well suited to cross country.

Doesn't everybody run GPS trackers??? So who would be dumb enough to cut the course????

TIC-It does have one of those outdated solid axles. And, a 250 pound weight advantage over the Renegade!
They all have GPS trackers but from my understanding it's only checked if a protest is filed. With Honda being one of the biggest supporter of and sponsoring and pitting for numerous competitors a protest against them would be ignored. Believe me, they cut 3-4 miles off the course outside of San Felipe. They took a power line road passing cars and motor homes all the way. I know it doesn't sound like much but cheating is cheating and who knows how much time it gained them?????
 
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Old Nov 20, 2006 | 10:08 AM
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Default 450R Wins Baja 1000......again!

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The CRF450X took the overall win as well.

Not bad for an unreliable, ticking time bomb, right Recon? Lol.
It'll probably never be known or investigated but the overall winner cut the course. I guess it's good to be Honda's #1 team.
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Default 450R Wins Baja 1000......again!

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Originally posted by: reconranger
crazy-Not quite sure what you said there???? The CRF450X (enduro dirt bike) and the 06/07 TRX450R quad have virtually identical engines, except for gearing. So, this engine takes first place in both the dirt bike and quad categories!

The CRF450R motocross dirt bike, while it has a similar engine, does not have a frame that is well suited to cross country.

Doesn't everybody run GPS trackers??? So who would be dumb enough to cut the course????

TIC-It does have one of those outdated solid axles. And, a 250 pound weight advantage over the Renegade!
They all have GPS trackers but from my understanding it's only checked if a protest is filed. With Honda being one of the biggest supporter of and sponsoring and pitting for numerous competitors a protest against them would be ignored. Believe me, they cut 3-4 miles off the course outside of San Felipe. They took a power line road passing cars and motor homes all the way. I know it doesn't sound like much but cheating is cheating and who knows how much time it gained them?????

You hit the nail right on the head LTZ. [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif[/img]
 
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Old Nov 20, 2006 | 10:59 AM
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Default 450R Wins Baja 1000......again!

You never know with this kind of stuff. You can bet whoever wins, they will get accused of course cutting........happens most every time.

Anybody know the story of what happend to the Can-Am Renegade???????
 
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Default 450R Wins Baja 1000......again!

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You never know with this kind of stuff. You can bet whoever wins, they will get accused of course cutting........happens most every time.

LTZ has been racing this type of circuit for quite some time now, I beleave he has a good source for his information.[img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-wink.gif[/img]
 
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Default 450R Wins Baja 1000......again!

Originally posted by: reconranger
You never know with this kind of stuff. You can bet whoever wins, they will get accused of course cutting........happens most every time.

Anybody know the story of what happend to the Can-Am Renegade???????
Guess they musta run the full course.
 
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Old Nov 20, 2006 | 11:35 AM
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Default 450R Wins Baja 1000......again!

Originally posted by: reconranger
You never know with this kind of stuff. You can bet whoever wins, they will get accused of course cutting........happens most every time.
Have you seen Dust to Glory? The Honda "A" cut course by running down the beach wide open for a few miles, I'm sure they had a few tricks up their sleeves this year too.[img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-wink.gif[/img]
 
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Old Nov 20, 2006 | 11:38 AM
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The GPS data is all there........hell you can even watch it LIVE! If you are all so sure there was course cutting, it shouldn't be difficult to verify.........

What was the second place quad????
 
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Old Nov 20, 2006 | 01:37 PM
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http://www.atvriders.com/atvnews/baj...voverview.html

Another 450R finshed 2nd. Looks like the Renegade managed a 3rd place, or 2nd type of quad. Not quite the pace of the Rincon in 02, but maybe they took a shortcut with the Rincon in 02 as well. I did read the Renegade had a complete aftermarket suspension and expected it to do much better. Not so great for the Outty either.
 
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Old Nov 20, 2006 | 02:08 PM
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Another 450R finshed 2nd. Looks like the Renegade managed a 3rd place, or 2nd type of quad. Not quite the pace of the Rincon in 02, but maybe they took a shortcut with the Rincon in 02 as well. I did read the Renegade had a complete aftermarket suspension and expected it to do much better. Not so great for the Outty either.
A shortcut isn't going to make up that much time anyways, a few minutes at the most. Which isn't nothing over a span of 1000+ miles!
 
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