so pissed!!!
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so pissed!!!
The Honda drain plug has a aluminum washer on it from the factory. From drain plug repairs needed that I have done, most of them were not from tightening them so tight that they stripped, they were from the aluminum washer mushrooming into the beginning of the thread. It messes up the first thread, then when the drain plug is restarted into the case it takes the rest of the threads out. Preventive mainanance would to be replace the aluminum sealing crush washer at any sign of distortion.
On units that have the crush washer continually flattened by the customer over tightening them then eventually stripping them out, I will tap their drain hole to accept a drain plug from an early 90's XJR1200 Yamaha. This type of drain plug does not rely on a crush washer of various metals and shapes, rather has a groove machined into it to accept an o-ring. Presonally I prefer this style of drain plug sealing system as it takes away the margin of error on the torque value of crush style drain plug sealing rings, and seals any imperfetions in the drain plug sealing surface. Draw back of this oring style is the o-ring needs replacement more often than a metal sealing washer, messed up threads ar way lower on this style of drain plug though
----- Gimpster -----
On units that have the crush washer continually flattened by the customer over tightening them then eventually stripping them out, I will tap their drain hole to accept a drain plug from an early 90's XJR1200 Yamaha. This type of drain plug does not rely on a crush washer of various metals and shapes, rather has a groove machined into it to accept an o-ring. Presonally I prefer this style of drain plug sealing system as it takes away the margin of error on the torque value of crush style drain plug sealing rings, and seals any imperfetions in the drain plug sealing surface. Draw back of this oring style is the o-ring needs replacement more often than a metal sealing washer, messed up threads ar way lower on this style of drain plug though
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I am a certified Toyota technician and the only place I use a torque wrench is critical bolts like head, cam, crank etcc... other than that I use my hand and in 20yrs of being a tech I have never had a bolt come back loose, fall out or break by using my hands. Torque wrenches have a place no matter what the manual says. Oil drain plugs dont have to be super tight. tighten by fingers than turn another 1/4-1/2 turn. Thats it.
#18
so pissed!!!
Self tapping oversize drain plugs will split the case when turned in.
Be aware of this. It is not the same as drilling and tapping to the proper size.
No offence 2manytoys
I also have been a Honda motorcycle tech for 20 + years. I have seen minor gains by stuffing an oversized plug into the crankcase. More split cases than success.
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Be aware of this. It is not the same as drilling and tapping to the proper size.
No offence 2manytoys
I also have been a Honda motorcycle tech for 20 + years. I have seen minor gains by stuffing an oversized plug into the crankcase. More split cases than success.
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so pissed!!!
Thats cool you guys are both tech's I am going to school starting the 25th for Ford and being a tech, but honestly I enjoy working on quads and stuff more, but aren't sure if there is as much money in that business...Maybe you could help me out on thay one glimpster...I would agree that the torque wrench isn't needed unless it is internal otherwise don't use it and use your hands for feel and it will be fine...Have you tried an easy out for the bolt or anything?