Honda Rancher 420 makes 1 hp less than the honda Rubicon, rancher420, 547#, rubicon, 630# power to weight is a very big deal why do you think drag racers are always trying to cut weight its because of the power to weigt ratio

 

Good comparison, Tom. If they have the same tires and transmission, then the Rancher would be the way to go if your main concern is speed. If you can both lose some weight and add HP then you've got the best of both worlds.

 

The heavest 500 Utility ATV made is a 500 Sportsman at 690-720 lbs depending on year, thats much heavier than most Big bore ATVs, yet besides the Outlander 500 no 450-500cc utility ATV can keep up to it in a straight drag and criuse at its 55mph + top end.

Motor size is not HP

A 500 Outy has 39hp

A SP500 is 35hp

A 500 Foreman is 27 hp

Got weight ,add power, problem solved.[img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-wink.gif[/img]

 

if the 850xp weights 808 and the KFX and LTR together equal that. thats almost even if you go by ccs.

the XP is an 850
450 + 450 = 900.

close.

 

good compareson, but the 420at has larger valves and longer duration, for some extra hp. but it wont really make up for the extra weight

 

foreman hp is not a problem(atleast 4 me), but the gearing is the limiting factor! agreeded its weight vs. hp. but a heavy mechine at high speeds handles wonderfully! like cars from before the 90's, when they where made of something called metal.

thank you guys for all the discussoin! keep it comeing

 

I think it all comes down to what will be your main use for a quad. For me, that's hauling wet fresh cut firewood down a 35 degree hill up in VT. That's with a loaded 4x4 foot trailer on the back of my X2. If I had a lighter quad it wouldn't be as firmly "planted" as my heavy one. I did tow with the Kawasaki Lakota 300 I had with one of those Sears lawn tractor trailers (otherwise known as poorly made) and it had a hard time with that small trailer that can hold a 1/4 the weight my new trailer holds. If I lived in the desert areas I probably would have opted for a sportier machine.

 

I found it odd that both of my grizzlies weigh within a few lbs of each other. The 660's dimensions are about an inch larger in all directions including ground clearance. The tires are the same but the 660 wheels are aluminum. Being 6' tall, the 660 fits me more comfortably than the 450 so the external dimensions belie the riding dimensions.