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Does the ES in the 450 forman stand for extra slow

Old Mar 9, 2002 | 01:46 PM
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I have a 2002 Foreman. In 2 or 4 wheel it has the same top speed. Up against the rev limiter is 51-52 MPH. It does get there a little quicker in 2wd. Thats the only difference I see.
 
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Old Mar 9, 2002 | 08:38 PM
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mud2myeyes, the difference with a 4x4 truck and a 4x4 quad is that the truck has locking hubs. Take one of your 4x4's, lock the hubs, put it it two wheel drive and tell me what you think.

And I have to say that I don't notice that much difference in 2wd & 4wd with my truck. A difference, maybe, but not much of one.
 
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Old Mar 10, 2002 | 12:35 AM
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I'm not trying to defend what I've been told about the unlocker speeds without having actually seen it. Logically it makes sense to me, and like scosho said, HiLifter makes some pretty fancy claims (but not top speedwise) - my wife would choke me if I spent another $450 on the Foreman. Besides, my 28" 'zillas do not make for the most smoothest ride, so why would I want to go faster?
Top speed on ANY vehicle is going to depend on the Maximum RPM the engine can produce, under what ever load it has. You can actually change the sprockets to a faster ratio on a heavily mod'd Banshee and loose top end speed (been there, done that)
The statement about the locking hubs on a truck is not true. Yes, you can tell the hubs are locked in with the 'case in 2WD on my gutless 351W'd F250, as well as in my Luv, and all that is is only differential drag. Chevy S series has used an engaging front differential since they came out in the early '80's, as well as they went to this same setup on the full size in the late '80's. Most 4X4 trucks by the late 90's have gone to this same type setup.
This differential engagement system is the same type they use on the Yammy Grizzly, as I also suspect on the '02 TRX450 (since I have not seen one, nor are parts breakdowns available on the 'net yet) - unlike the electronically locking hubs of the Polaris breeds.
Have you ever driven the old Suzuki LT4WD quad? It had 2 to 4WD capabilities and on the one I had, there was a definite speed difference between 2WD and 4WD in high range - it had a speedo, but it has been years since I owned it and don't remember the speed difference (it only had a 250cc engine)
 
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