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Originally posted by: Duneaddict
MXDALE71:
JCV400EX: I have yet to see a 400EX run with a 250R... Mebbe I've got my head in the sand? Are there any 17 year old 250R's around that are still completely stock? (Besides mine LOL)
"excellent handling and mediocre power".... seems that's what I've been complaining about with the last two posts...
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No s*it.....A 400EX run with a stock 250R????????I dont think so......... late,zubbeyboy

 

Guys,

You fail to rememeber....a stock 400ex and an old stock 250r have the same horsepower.....[img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-wink.gif[/img]

 

Kinda funny i feel like im in grade school.LOL.Anyway............Just because 2 machines have the same horsepower doesnt mean one is not faster than the other.The R is lighter than the X by what ....30-40 Pounds???Ive owned a Stock 88 R and a Stock 99 400EX and the R in my opinion was faster.Not by a bunch though ill give you that.Its all good!!!! late,zubbeyboy

 

You live in "Butte" Montana! [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-happy.gif[/img] There, now we're back in grammar school! lol

Yeah, the R is lighter. It's close. I've been digging through my old DW's for the past 3 nights. Didn't they re-print the classic shootout between the Kawi, Honda, and Suzuki awhile back? like right around the time the 99 EX came out? I know they had all the drag times and stuff there.

I think it's just funny. I mean, think about it. What was an R brand new in '89, $3500-$3600?? Your lucky to get one that runs and doesn't have a cracked frame for that now. People pay it though. But with all the new 4 strokes coming out, that HAS to change. I mean Kelly Blue Book lists the retail value of a 1989 R in excellent condition at $3570! A 1999 400ex......$3,920. And a new 1999 400ex retailed for, $5,400 back then??? I really think if more companies release new hi-performance machines, we'll see the fall of the 250R. I think Honda can stop carrying OEM parts for a model after 20 years. I might be talking out my **** on that one, but I'm 90% sure they don't have too. I think then we might see the R's value start to decline. JMO.

 

You really shouldn't place that must trust in magazines, especially DW. If you believe what they say, the z400 is the best bike ever made, for racing, hiking, canoeing, you name it the z400 is the best at it.

Remeber when the Raptor was the best.

 

LOL! [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-happy.gif[/img]

 

250R and a400EX same hp.? Siting here looking at my point origin paper for my 87 250R it says 38 hp. I thought the 400EX was 26 hp.

 

You guys are killing me here!! How many times do I have to post this:

SPORT QUAD POWER-TO-WEIGHT ratioS… Highest to Lowest
(approximate stock rear wheel horsepower / factory claimed dry weight)
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1. Suzuki Quadzilla LT500 ---------> 51srwhp / 390lbs = 0.1308 horsepower per pound
2. Cannondale Cannibal -------------> 38srwhp / 375lbs = 0.1013 horsepower per pound
3. Yamaha Banshee ------------------> 37srwhp / 386lbs = 0.0959 horsepower per pound
4. Suzuki QuadRacer 250R --------> 31srwhp / 327lbs = 0.0948 horsepower per pound
5. Kawasaki Tecate 4 ----------------> 33srwhp / 339lbs = 0.0944 horsepower per pound
6. Honda 250R --------------------------> 31srwhp / 329lbs = 0.0942 horsepower per pound
7. Bombardier DS650 ----------------> 42srwhp / 465lbs = 0.0903 horsepower per pound
8. Yamaha Raptor 660R -------------> 35srwhp / 399lbs = 0.0877 horsepower per pound
9. Suzuki Z400 / Kawasaki X400 -> 32srwhp / 370lbs = 0.0865 horsepower per pound
10. Honda 400EX -----------------------> 29srwhp / 374lbs = 0.0775 horsepower per pound
11. Polaris Sport 400 ------------------> 31srwhp / 481lbs = 0.0644 horsepower per pound
12. Yamaha Blaster --------------------> 19srwhp / 320lbs = 0.0594 horsepower per pound
13. Yamaha Warrior -------------------> 22srwhp / 397lbs = 0.0554 horsepower per pound
14. Polaris Scrambler 500 2WD ---> 29srwhp / 525lbs = 0.0552 horsepower per pound
15. Honda 300EX -----------------------> 17srwhp / 377lbs = 0.0451 horsepower per pound
16. Kawasaki Mojave -----------------> 17srwhp / 379lbs = 0.0449 horsepower per pound
17. Honda 250X -------------------------> 15srwhp / 351lbs = 0.0427 horsepower per pound
18. Honda 250EX -----------------------> 13srwhp / 349lbs = 0.0372 horsepower per pound
19. Suzuki QuadSport 230 ----------> 11srwhp / 309lbs = 0.0356 horsepower per pound
20. Wal-Mart PowerWheels ---------> 0.5srwhp / 50lbs = 0.0100 horsepower per pound

 

Hey Brian, where do the ATC's fall in this catagory? If memory serves me correctly the 85ATC250R had 39hp and weighed around 270 lbs..... .144hp/lb

 

The ATC 250R would have had the same HP figures, not sure about the weight but obviously alot lighter than the 329 pound figure for the quad.