Brute force in the mud and water
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Brute force in the mud and water
Maybe everybody who is getting water in the air box needs to drive in deeper water! We had 3 BF's and my old P650 out for a day of mud and water. After probably 30 winch pulls from the mud and water. Only one Brute got any moisture in the box. You can see from the pictures which one that might have been. It did require a couple oil changes before continuing on to finish the day. We also cleaned the atv's in the Red River by driving as fast as the current would allow us go in 2 1/2' - 3' of water. I hope someone can come to a conclusion as to why some get water in them and other don't. Then maybe Kawasaki will provide the unfortunate with a better factory snorkle and an upgrade to the fortunate. BF mud pics
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Brute force in the mud and water
Originally posted by: BigRanchN
Awesome pictures and I'm glad to see I'm not the only one not having a problem.
Awesome pictures and I'm glad to see I'm not the only one not having a problem.
Seeing some of the photos, it is pretty obvious that this "water in the airbox" phenomenon is 95% rider choice.
Mike
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Brute force in the mud and water
Snorkle required for that water? I don't think so, my P650 would go in water and mud like that and not have any problems. The Brute is taller and should not suck in water but it does.
You mention you went into the water channel at LOW speed, thats the problem. Put the hammer down and water will be in your air box. Some of us ride differently, I like having the hammer down and spinning my tires, its fun to me. Some people like to ride a little slower and have no problems. My P650 was rode just as hard and water never got in the airbox, that means its a bad design which should have never made it out to the public.
The Brute was a rushed quad, there is no question about it. They obviously never tested the damn thing much, especially in winter. Get the quad wet, let it sit outside and the rear brake freezes on, the cable is the problem. Also the key ignition freezes up, it won't turn. I know its the depth of water I play in but again these problems were not present on the P650.
Just another example of companies getting lazier everyday.
You mention you went into the water channel at LOW speed, thats the problem. Put the hammer down and water will be in your air box. Some of us ride differently, I like having the hammer down and spinning my tires, its fun to me. Some people like to ride a little slower and have no problems. My P650 was rode just as hard and water never got in the airbox, that means its a bad design which should have never made it out to the public.
The Brute was a rushed quad, there is no question about it. They obviously never tested the damn thing much, especially in winter. Get the quad wet, let it sit outside and the rear brake freezes on, the cable is the problem. Also the key ignition freezes up, it won't turn. I know its the depth of water I play in but again these problems were not present on the P650.
Just another example of companies getting lazier everyday.
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Brute force in the mud and water
Originally posted by: bbertram
Snorkle required for that water? I don't think so, my P650 would go in water and mud like that and not have any problems. The Brute is taller and should not suck in water but it does.
You mention you went into the water channel at LOW speed, thats the problem. Put the hammer down and water will be in your air box. Some of us ride differently, I like having the hammer down and spinning my tires, its fun to me. Some people like to ride a little slower and have no problems. My P650 was rode just as hard and water never got in the airbox, that means its a bad design which should have never made it out to the public.
The Brute was a rushed quad, there is no question about it. They obviously never tested the damn thing much, especially in winter. Get the quad wet, let it sit outside and the rear brake freezes on, the cable is the problem. Also the key ignition freezes up, it won't turn. I know its the depth of water I play in but again these problems were not present on the P650.
Just another example of companies getting lazier everyday.
Snorkle required for that water? I don't think so, my P650 would go in water and mud like that and not have any problems. The Brute is taller and should not suck in water but it does.
You mention you went into the water channel at LOW speed, thats the problem. Put the hammer down and water will be in your air box. Some of us ride differently, I like having the hammer down and spinning my tires, its fun to me. Some people like to ride a little slower and have no problems. My P650 was rode just as hard and water never got in the airbox, that means its a bad design which should have never made it out to the public.
The Brute was a rushed quad, there is no question about it. They obviously never tested the damn thing much, especially in winter. Get the quad wet, let it sit outside and the rear brake freezes on, the cable is the problem. Also the key ignition freezes up, it won't turn. I know its the depth of water I play in but again these problems were not present on the P650.
Just another example of companies getting lazier everyday.
Good points, bbertram. I hear ya and it is obvious that the Brute was not field tested at length.
Yep, I'd rather spin and go crazy in the water just like you do. Guess I'm willing to not do that to avoid the dreaded airbox disaster.
Either way, Kawi should have figured that people *might* take this thin through some water and crap.
BTW: I've watched your videos over and over and they are great every time.... keep up the killer site!
Mike
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