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Old Feb 9, 2006 | 09:40 PM
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Steer me right if I'm off base here, please. Looking seriously at the BF750 for my next machine. I haven't had a chance to ride one in the woods yet; not too many kawi riders in my area.

Sounds like the 750 will outrun the Polaris 760 (fake 800) bone stock, except maybe the Polaris takes it at top end? How does the handling of the Kawi compare to the Polaris?

With a couple of mods it sounds like the BF will run with the Bomb 800? True? And without killing the reliability?

I know I could just buy the BRP, but I just don't know about a first year machine. Plus it's a lot more fun to outrun the big boys with a smaller machine.

I want a machine that will run with the best, but not just in a straight line, it has to keep up on the trails, too.

Let me hear from some of you 750 riders!
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Old Feb 9, 2006 | 09:53 PM
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The brute force stock will out run the polaris in a straight line but it will start to gain some on the other end but that is due to the kawi being detuned from factory on the bottom and top end. A Dyna or VDI cdi eliminates both the detunes as well as bumps up the timing a little and really works the brute up so the polaris stands no chance and the bomb will be sweating.

The main thing to do on the brute is to get some tires and wheels to replace the stock dunlops and you'll be able to leave the polaris in the woods but the bomb will still have you in the tight trails... it is just better designed for it.
 
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Old Feb 9, 2006 | 11:14 PM
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I've heard you have to stop the Kawi before engaging 4wd? Is that correct, or is it just you shouldn't engage it while spinning the rear wheels? If it's like most quads, the parts are turning all the time- I can't see why you could not shift on the fly.
And is there any speed limiter on 4wd?

Some terrain it's better to run fast with all four pulling in my experience, if you want to keep the back end behind you, that is!

I ride with a bunch of Polaris owners, and my last was the SP700. Just want something different next time. I'm thinking for the price of the SP800, I can get the Kawi, add bigger tires and electronics, and enjoy the satisfaction of spanking them. [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-tongue.gif[/img]
Yeah, I know, kid stuff, but after all, it is a TOY!

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Old Feb 10, 2006 | 12:21 AM
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You don't have to stop to put the Kawi in 4wd. You aren't suppose to switch it when the back tires are spinning and the front ones are not. There is not speed limiter on the 4wd either.

 
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Old Feb 10, 2006 | 02:00 AM
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it is an on the fly system in that you can hit it while moving or disengage it while moving but if you get stuck in a mud hole it won't engage and spinning the rear tires is not healthy for the front diff.

I'm not a big fan of the part where i can't engage 4wd when i get stuck but i've just learned to engage 4wd before anything i would think would need it... no stop just flip the switch and when i cross it just flip it again to turn it off.
 
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Old Feb 10, 2006 | 11:56 AM
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I ride on some big ranches around here and I do not have a winch yet so I have flipped it to 4wd when my back end got stuck. Its not good for it but it won't leave you stuck because of it. I just try to spin the tires really slow and rock the bike at much as possible.
 
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Old Feb 10, 2006 | 12:38 PM
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i know you guys will say he dident ask about the 700p kawasaki.
but i have to say befor kawi started to push its bf 750 the 700p was atv of the year from its first year as a 650 to the 700s last year as its biggest 2004.
and when the 750 came out kawi stoped pushing its 700 because they say there 750 is better.
but the 750 hasent came in first in any shoot out since it came out.
the only thing they say is #1 on the 750 is the motors power.
thay also say it tends to push in the tight corners.
but im sure better tires will fix that.
and they wont push the 700 because it will beat the 750 on the trails hands down.
sure the 750 has more power then the 700 (50 more cc's) but the 700 will outdo the 750 in everything but speed and ground clearance.
i ride with lots of other quads in the bush and on some realy tight trails and when me and my buddy with his 700p are out on the trails nobody can keep up.
and if they do there beating the heck out of theres while were just cruising.
i think that the 700p is the best trail quad out there hands down.
the only quad i havent seen in action is the bomb 800.
and untill then im sticking with the 700.
also the 700p is a better hill climber and way more stable then the 750.
i ride with lots of differant quads and all differant sizes and my 700 is the king on the trails.
also i havent seen the bf 750 in the mud but i think it would be better then the 700 only because of the added ground clearance.
but i do know my 700p is awsome in the mud with my 28" mudzillas.
and i havent bin out done there eather.
maybe one day i will see the bf750 in the mud and it will outdo me but when we hit the trails im saying see ya.
also if you put the vdi copperhead and a exhaust system on the 700p it will be faster then the stock 750bf.
now dont start getting upset with me about me saying my 700 is better then the 750 on the trails.
this is just my opinion and what i have seen out here in BC CANADA where 90% of our riding is done on trails.
if your at the kawi dealers ask about the 700 its about 500 dollers cheaper and with the money you save you can get a good set of tires (mudzillas) and take the wife out for dinner (Mc D's)
somthing to think about.
good luck.

 
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Old Feb 10, 2006 | 06:40 PM
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i think the exhaust system and VDI is gonna put the price of the 700 over what a brute goes for. if someone wants a SRA, that is the way to go, but what you gain in speed, you give up in ground clearance. not good on our trails. too much rock. i trail ride pretty much 100% of my time on a 4 wheeler, and speed isn't important to me (i ride a 650i) , but the brute, King Quad, or Bomb were the only real contenders. the only reason i bought the brute is i have an emotional attatchment to the V-twin, and the Bomb dealer here gouged me a couple of times before.

but with the Brute with VDI,and exhaust , you'll be alpha quad.

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Old Feb 10, 2006 | 07:01 PM
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mudblaster its kinda understood that the prairie 700 will out handle the brute force 750 in the tight trails due to it having a SRA... and it will leave the polaris and outty as well.

What you gain in handling you lose in comfort and ground clearance so you really have to choose for yourself...
 
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Old Feb 10, 2006 | 08:50 PM
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the irs is way more smoother thats for sure.
but i had an irs cat 2003 500i and i rolled it more times then i care to remember.
i found that when the trail has a bad rutt and your comming out of it the front end would pop up and the back end would squat down and the next thing i know im upside down.
or going up steep deactivated fire roads with loose rock and ground it kept poping the front end up.
so the last time i had it in the shop i traded it in on a 2004 honda rubicon and i found the honda to be a far better trail quad then the cat.
irs vs sra.
then in january last year i won an m7 arctic cat sled so i road it for a bit and put it up for sale.
and then owner of the shop offerd to trade me his 700p.
long story short i got the kawi and sold my honda and i have never bin happier.
out of all the quads i ride with, the 700p and the 02-03 650p are the best big bore trail and hill climing quads.
and if your looking for comfort and power then the 750 is for you but if you want fast and grate handleing on the trails the i would take a look at the 700p sra.
like i said befor this is just my opinion.
buy the way i put 2800 miles on my cat and 2300 miles on my honda and i now have 2500 miles on my kawi.
and out of the three quads iv had the honda was the most reliable but the kawi is better at everything else over the other two.
after having the irs cat i swore i would never own another.

 
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