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Old Jun 11, 2006 | 05:06 PM
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Primary springs for a 05 Prairie 700. I am considering a Comet Black, Dalton Blue/Orange, or EPI Red or Gold. Wich would be best and for what would they be best for. Or should I go with EPI Pink or Dalton Blue. H E L P ! ! !
 
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Old Jun 11, 2006 | 05:43 PM
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I am guessing that your bike is stock.
What size tires you got?
Any mods?
What kind of riding do you do?

The only difference between the EPI Pink and the Dalton Blue/ Orange is the Dalton has a little more stall. You probable want to stay away from the Gold if you do not have any mods.

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Old Jun 11, 2006 | 06:16 PM
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25" Maxxis Bighorns. I am a speedster. I ride through trails like a bat out of hell. The Bighorns are very heavy. 11lbs each in the front and 13lbs each in the rear. Total of 48lbs bolted straight on to the drive line if you know what I mean. They have robbed some of my power. I have just received a new set of ITP C-7 series wheels also and there going to add about 6lbs per wheel. Explain what stall and all that means. And it is stock but I plan on getting the CDI from Dyna. Thanx for all your help Brute23!!!!!!!
 
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Old Jun 11, 2006 | 06:32 PM
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Read through all the links I have given you and it will explain alot of it.

If you don't know the basics. STALL is how many RPMS the engine will rev to before actually taking off. By doing this it allows a bike to get into its power band before taking off. This is good for drag racers or sled pullers, tollerable by most trail riders, and a big NO-NO for rock or hill climbers.

The SHIFT OUT is exactly as it says. The point at wich the bike will shift out. Mud Boggers and sled pullers(maybe) like the bikes to shift out real late so that they can be sure to stay in their power bands. People who race with alot of mods on their bikes and little resistance, such as big tires or several thousand pound sleds, may want to shif tout quicker because they have the power to do so. They are trying to reach thier top speed as quickly as possible.

From what I have read it sounds like the P700 spring is pretty good. It may not be worth it to put the EPI pink or Dalton Blue/ Orange. If you are planning on getting the Dyna soon you may want to wait and do them both at the same time or you could end up like me and having to buy more than one.
 
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Old Jun 11, 2006 | 08:01 PM
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Thanx a bunch Brute23. So the higher the stall number the more bottom end. The higher the shift number, means more bottom end also. At least thats what it sounds like to me. Or more mid range. So with a higher stall #, it actually builds up rpm's b4 it engages so to speak. And the higher the shift #, the quicker it gets to top end. Is this correct, and what spring do I have now. Do you know, or how can I find out. I will not have computer axcess for a few days, but thanx in advance.
 
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Old Jun 11, 2006 | 09:44 PM
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Originally posted by: skjarvis8323
Thanx a bunch Brute23. So the higher the stall number the more bottom end. The higher the shift number, means more bottom end also. At least thats what it sounds like to me. Or more mid range. So with a higher stall #, it actually builds up rpm's b4 it engages so to speak. And the higher the shift #, the quicker it gets to top end. Is this correct, and what spring do I have now. Do you know, or how can I find out. I will not have computer axcess for a few days, but thanx in advance.

You are not gaining power, you are just minipulating the clutch so that you are in the power band longer.
More stall means it will build up to a ceratin RPM before moving.
More shift-out means it will hang in a gear longer before shifting.

"P700 stock spring, engagement rpms 1270.
I was very suprised at the performance of this spring. For trail riding this is an excellent spring. If I had a P700 I would be hard pressed talking myself into buying another spring for trail riding. I did get better performance from "non drag racing" springs though but is it worth the money. This spring does have a strong midrange. You P700 owners should think twice about giving up your stock spring unless you want the performance of an EPI Red, Dalton Black/White or just want to find out what other springs are like. I would highly recommend experimenting like I did before buying. " :NYROC

I can not really tell you a for-sure spring. From what it sounds like the EPI red is a good spring but has alot of stall. So... Maybe a Polaris White or EPI Golad, which both have the same shift out as the EPI Red but less stall, would be good ones for you to try. As I said originally, all this is just theory. Untill you actually put it on the bike and test it out its hard to say.

 
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Old Jun 11, 2006 | 09:49 PM
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Brute 23,

I am sure others on this forum would agree: You always are willing to help and we all appreciate that.

Thanks a bunch.

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Old Jun 11, 2006 | 09:56 PM
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No problem, people did it for me ALOT when I got started and still do it.
 
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