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Old Jun 22, 2006 | 09:57 PM
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Does EFI Add HP &/or Torque or just throttle response? I have heard some guys I ride with say it adds HP & torque, but that doesn't sound right. What is the right answer. Thanks for any info.
 
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Old Jun 22, 2006 | 10:22 PM
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you can get more power out of carbs as a general rule. a quick example is the KQ (700cc) and the Prarie 700. i understand it takes some money to make a KQ keep up with a Prarie.

but EFI runs better when cold, and if the sensors are worthy, EFI runs better at different elevations.

one day EFI will rule, but not yet IMO

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Old Jun 23, 2006 | 12:52 AM
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thanks for the good info.
 
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Old Jun 23, 2006 | 11:30 AM
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Under "perfect" conditions a carb will produce more power, but in reality those "perfect" conditions aren't even close to being consistant, so EFI would be more powerfull most of the time. Not to mention EFI will always give a nice, crisp throttle response.
 
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Old Jun 23, 2006 | 12:27 PM
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EFI also can increase fuel econ....
 
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Old Jun 23, 2006 | 05:11 PM
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Carbs can be made to produce more power esier than EFI on modded engines , but on identical engines with stock carb or stock EFI, the EFI is most likely going to produce a little more HP / and or TQ. What is usually the benefit of EFI is the ability to adapt better auotmatically to elevation change, loads etc., and a big plus is the way EFI is usually a lot more linear than carbs. You dont get highs and lows thru-out the RPM as bad as with carbs. Carbs can be made with good linear characteristics but EFI is just esier. As far as a KQ keeping up with a P700, Im not sure , but I have no problem keeping up with a Brute 750, actuall the stock ones Ive "raced" have had to keep up with me. Of course they jump me by about 1/2-1 quadlenth outa the hole due to the KQ notorious lag, but its over after that. And take into acount the KQ doesnt have "true" EFI. Its system is basically a TBI system, which a based on history was never as good as what I call True EFI systems, TPI etc. on autos. Look at sportbikes these days, some with Basically "true" EFI. Add exhaust and filters and dont really have to mess with the EFI / Computer. KQ though, add much more than a "slip -on" you might want to "mess" with the Computer, as its parameters arent large enouggh to cover the change. Had one come into shop while i was there ordering Twin air that was ruined cause the owner added filter and full exhaust and made no other changes. My thoughts>
 
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Old Jun 23, 2006 | 07:14 PM
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Originally posted by: montyh
you can get more power out of carbs as a general rule. a quick example is the KQ (700cc) and the Prarie 700. i understand it takes some money to make a KQ keep up with a Prarie.

but EFI runs better when cold, and if the sensors are worthy, EFI runs better at different elevations.

one day EFI will rule, but not yet IMO

monty
I'm really not trying to sound like I'm sitting here drowning in my own tears because you've talked bad about my machine, because I'm not, but the Prairie and KingQuad comparison is one I do not like at all, no matter what we're talking about. These two machines are so different it's not even funny, but especially in the power department and how they deliver it. The Prairie has a distinct advantage because it has another cylinder. Also, your definition of "keep up" is very tentative. As zex has stated above me, the King definitely gets beaten off the line not only because the V-Twin Kawasaki is better at making torque, but also because of the ignition timing lag that most people who buy a Prairie instantly clear out with an aftermarket CDI or module. However, from the upper mid-range on, I personally think the advantage goes to the Suzuki because the top-end is higher than that of the Prairie, and make no mistake about it, the KingQuad has very competitive mid-range power. Not saying it surpasses that of the Prairie, but from a guy who's ridden one several times and owns the other, I'd say they are too close to call.
 
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Old Jun 23, 2006 | 08:24 PM
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redgoblin, you don't understand me, i guess. out of the KQ or Prarie, i'd take the KQ. i would have bought a KQ over my BF but the local Suzuki dealer hosed me a couple of times on parts. i like my BF and won't trade it anytime soon, but the KQ is the measuring stick on the difficult trails i call home. i call the KQ one of the best ever.

but the prarie is a stomper and has carbs. you can't take that away from it.

and the magazine shootout thread here places the 650i faster than the KQ, but we all know how the magazine shootouts are.

monty
 
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Old Jun 23, 2006 | 08:54 PM
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Putting aside the personal opinions of which quad is faster or better....etc, then what I am hearing is that EFI not only helps throttle response linearity, but it also adds a little HP and torque? The only true comparison I can think of is the polaris 700 carb and the polaris 700efi. From my understanding, everything is the same except EFI. If that is true, does the EFI model produce more HP and torque than the carb model?
 
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Old Jun 23, 2006 | 09:47 PM
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Originally posted by: montyh
a quick example is the KQ (700cc) and the Prarie 700. i understand it takes some money to make a KQ keep up with a Prairie.
This is the statement to which I was solely responding. I was, in no way, attempting to imply that you were downing the KingQuad. Frankly, if you are, that's fine and dandy because every single person on here is entitled to their opinion and I never give them trouble for voicing it. However, I just feel like there's room for debate to the aforementioned statement.
 
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