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Old Nov 18, 2007 | 07:32 PM
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OK here we go. I have a 2004 kawi 700p. I let a friend borrow it about a month ago so he could go riding with his son. He brought it back pretty clean but I could tell they had it in the mud. I drove it around when he brought it back just to make sure everything was ok. I found nothing and it ran fine. So today I go out to the garage to start it up and take it for a spin. It's been about a month since he brought it back to me. It was a little bit harder to start than normal and it died after about a 20 seconds. I noticed the faint smell of gas but didn't pay much attention to it. I restarted and took off down the street when I came to the end of the road and slowed down it died and would not start. I pushed it back to the house. I tried to start it and was able to get it started and could smell gas alot stronger I look underneath and there is fuel pouring out.

So I trace it down to the hose that runs back up to the carb. There are two hoses coming off each carb these hoses go into a tee and become one . There are so screws you can loosen to check for water or dirt in your carb. So here is what is happening.
1. When the bike is off no gas pours out.
2. When I start the bike gas starts pouring out.
3. When I turn bike back off gas runs out for a few seconds then stops.
4. When I turn key off and back on gas runs out for about 1 second then stops.

I was supposed to take two of my boys hunting this weekend but I need the four wheeler to get them around. my local dealership can't get the bike back to me before I need to go. I have a nice shop and all kind of tools. Can I fix this myself and how hard will it be. Oh yeah and what is causing this!!!
 
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Old Nov 18, 2007 | 09:23 PM
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The floats are stuck in the carb. I don't know how hard the the carbs are to get at on the P. I know the V is not exactly fun.
 
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Old Nov 18, 2007 | 09:47 PM
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It just a piece of dirt or a build up of crap on the needle n seat. Like a toilet bowl, there are floats that float up as gas pours in the bowl and they shut the gap in the needle n seat to stop the flow. But add a piece of dirt in the gap and the valve cant shut. You can try taking a piece of wood and tapping the bowl of the carb with hopes of dislodging the dirt, but I've never had any luck with that. Most of the time it clears up after a ride. The real danger of this is that gas pours into the engine and down into the oil in the crankcase. If it never seems to clear up, you will have to take your carb bowl off and really clean the needle n seat. To solve the problem for good, get a fuel filter.
 
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Old Nov 18, 2007 | 09:51 PM
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Oh, for your buddy's sake, I doubt he did anything to it. It is probably more a result of leaving sit for a month than anything else. Take it for a really bumpy ride and see what happens.
 
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Old Nov 18, 2007 | 10:55 PM
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Hey thanks for the reply. I would love to take it out for a bumpy ride, but it is about a half mile down the road before it gets bumpy at my house and I'm catching hell trying to keep it running even an 1/8 of a mile. I thought it might be the floats in the carb from other threads that I have read. I guess mine are stuck all the way open cause it is really dumping gas bad. I took off the air box and unhooked all the lines and removed some of the body plastic so that I could get to the top of the carbs. I looked down into them but didn't see anything stuck I also could not see how to take them all the way off. I was afraid I was going to break something or not get it back together again. I sprayed a bunch of carb cleaner down inside and put everything back together again and hoped it would be better. I wasn't still dumping. I am glad to know my friend didn't do anything to it. I wonder what they will charge me to fix this at the dealership?
 
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Old Nov 18, 2007 | 11:33 PM
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My lord, take a jar of vaseline if you go to the dealership! Its a simple job to clean out the carb and doesn't require any special tools. Just a couple screwdrivers (not counting taking the plastic off n that stuff). Clear out some times for yourself, get a drink n relax, turn on some nice music, and experience the zen of atv repair. [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif[/img]

From looking down into the carb you can't see the floats. You have to take the bottom off the carb. Then there is a pin that you will need a small, pointy screwdriver or pencil or something to easily push the pin out. When you lift the floats off, the needle will come out too. It might fall off on the floor, try not to let that happen because you will want to inspect it to find the piece of crap that has been giving you all this trouble. Inspect the hole the needle goes it too. Get a can of something that has one of those little red straws taped to the side of it (ie, carb cleaner, brake cleaner, wd-40, etc). Something that has pressure to blow off the dirt. Use it to blow the dirt off nice n clean. Both needle and seat. Put it back together in reverse order. No new gaskets or anything needed. One gasket seems to last forever. I have one that is at least 21 yrs old and doesn't leak. You can also go to kawasaki.com n get exploded diagrams for free. http://www.kawasaki.com/Defaul...ON/VICHOOSEVEHICLE.ASP Then pick "owner info" and follow the directions. Can't go wrong.
 
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Old Nov 19, 2007 | 10:37 PM
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well I got a wooden dow about the size of a pencil and a hammer and tapped both carbs at the bottom bowl area. I can't believe it.... it's fixed!

Thanks for all your replys and advice!!!
 
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Old Nov 19, 2007 | 10:53 PM
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yep you have a sticky float, it might do it again if you let it sit very long, I would suggest going ahead and cleaning the carbs well to make sure that they dont do it to you again on a long ride.
 
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Old Nov 19, 2007 | 11:35 PM
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<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote>Originally posted by: patfiles

well I got a wooden dow about the size of a pencil and a hammer and tapped both carbs at the bottom bowl area. I can't believe it.... it's fixed!



Thanks for all your replys and advice!!!</end quote></div>

I've heard that it works, but you are the first one I've seen (sorta) it work on. Get some gumout gas additive. Maybe that will help clean things up a bit. You should still get a fuel filter too. They only cost $2.
 
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Old Nov 21, 2007 | 04:35 PM
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ok how do i install the fuel filter and is there a certian one i should buy and where do I buy it. I'm guessing it just goes inline on the fuel line but does it matter where?
 
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