Thanks Forum even though I had to go all the way back to 2001! I think I have finally solved my delima thanks to a 2001 forum. It seems that the starter limiter has worn out due to me having to run the machine on full choke for about a day with sea foam last year to ever get it to run on idle or without the choke all the way on. According to the forum due to too much compresion caused by me running the machine on full chokeprobablycaused my starter limiter to wear out. I hope the decompression valve isn't hurt as I will probably have to replace it and that's no fun.I think that replacing the starter limiter will solve the issue and a good carburator cleaning. Thanks to myself for taking the time to go way back and keep looking. Anyway I hope this update will help some other soul if they are having the same problem. Sumper