I got 28" mudzillas yesterday. They lifted the quad 2" over the stockers, measuring the axle and step board clearance. The extra 1/2" must be due to greater tire stiffness.

I did not get stuck where I would have gotten stuck with the stockers. But I did get stuck in a very bad spot. I was overconfident that mudzilla would save me. Somehow a small, clear, shallow stream was full of black stinky mossy crap that when I went in I high centered and the tires spun up evil black stinky stuff. I could not back up. The bank was steep, over the fron rack. I pull a 4" wide tree down with my winch. I found stronger tree and got out. The 650 never stalled. The mudzillas just chewed big gashes in the bank. Thank goodness for warn. I feel dumb for not bringing the camera.

You wanna know mudzillas compare to stockers?
-They don't seem to shake the quad, at least not enough to bother while going slow. On pavement going really slow, they are very bumpy. Seemed fine on hard trails.
-They don't seem to make steering harder. Did not feel the ruts pushing my arms.
-They don't seem to ride hard either.
-They seemed to have a lot more wet and dry traction. They handled very well going slow, but not as good sideways traction.
-They suck over 40mph (or 44.8 diameter corrected). Very vague and imprecise handling going fast. I did not feel unsafe. The lack of sideways bite at high speed eliminated any possibility of going out of control. I am just saying the control was not very good.
- I bet it is hard to pop them. Plus they have really good rim protectors.

I fear a lot of mud and snow in my future rides. Otherwise I might have gotten the goodyear mudrunner.

 

Thanks for the update.

 

nyroc i have a 650 with vamps 28/10/10's all around . i am very unsatisfied and want to put mudzillas on the back but i want 28/12/12s do you think that they will work ? how much space do you have between your tank and right rear tire. i have factory rims . my problem with the vamps is that they are to narrow and my bike fish tails dangerously bad on hard dirt and pavement at mid and high speed. also the vamps are not wide enough to provide the grip on the sides of those deep ruts us straight axle guys
depend on i do not know why they did not make the vamps 28/12/12. [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-disgusted.gif[/img]

 

Yes, I think they will fit. I though I had quite a lot of room for the 10" wide zillas when I have them on. However, I now have 26x12x12 mudrunners on. Mudrunners are really fat. They have a full .75" clearance between them and the tank guard (stock rims). I don't think zillas are any wider than the mudrunners. If they are any wider, only half of that width would go toward the tank guard.

I think only large 12" wide laws rub the tank guard. The fix for that is a raxor blade.

Just FYI, mudzillas handle drypack a lot better than vamps. You would be happy with the 10" wide ones. I set my toe in shortly after making this post a year ago and found that setting it to zero makes my 650 handle fairly good with the zillas on. If I were you I would put zillas on the front too, since they have such good sideways bite.

They slow me down a bit, make wheelies harder, but they sure do tackle mud.

 

nyroc thanks for your imput i went ahead and orderd the 28/12/12s i will let you know how it goes .[img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-cool.gif[/img]

 

I have 27" Vampires on my 2003 P650 and I also have High Lifters Wheel Hub Spacers all around and I am very pleased with the performance. They don't rub at all. As for the fishtailing.......come on it's a P650......lotta power.

 

Nyroc...

What do you think about the 26" Mudrunner setup all the way around. I love mine, but am contemplating a change. We ride very aggressively and this setup is great for me. But I would love to create a monster w/ 'zillas. Would you stick with the mudrunners?

Parker

 

put the mudzillas on yesterday they clearedby 1/2 inch very close . performance is much better with the 12" tires fish tailing is gone i can wheelie again life is good .[img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-happy.gif[/img]

 

Parker, I use the mudrunners for all around riding. They are a little too aggressive for the dry rides but not too bad. They are kindof a middle of the road for me. My sur traks I used to use made my 650 much more numble, but sucked in the mud.

If you ride often in the mud, yes, you should get zillas.

If you ride some really yucky muddy rides, I would suggest getting an additional set of rims with zillas. I sometimes ride really yucky stuff, and thats when I put the zillas on. Zillas make a mudfest like Salamanca (NY) dice run really easy. I really prefer a lighter tire than the mudzilla most of the time. But when the going gets muddy, I like to have the best.

Someone around here claims that they use three sets of tires to cover the different seasons.