There are very few automotive oils that meet the specs that Kawi calls for. The Mobil 1 V-Twin oil does meet the standards Kawi calls for. That is what I have been useing in my 650 so far. For what its worth I dont use anything but synthetic anymore.

Has anyone found a cross reference number for the 650 oil filter. I'm pretty sure its the same filter used on the Vulcan 1500s 99 and up.

 

Thanks guys,going to the city next week,Im gonna try to find some mobil v-twin ,sounds like what I was looking for.

 

:confused ; This is what my manual say's word for word for a 400; 01KVF400-c3 ; Prairie 400 4x4
Engine Oil ; SE or SF class SAE 5w30, 10w30, 10w40, 10w50, 20w40, 20w50. Thats it ! Sounds like AUTO
oil to me.

 

There is a bit of a difference from your specs to mine. The 650 engine calls for,
API SF or SG
API SH or SJ with JASO MA class.
There are a lot of oils out there with the SE rating but not that many (at least from what I could see) with the ratings above.
I dont know what most of the ratings mean but I was surprised when I went into the auto parts store and started looking for a oil that met these standards and couldnt find many.

 

By the way, the Mobil 1 V-Twin oil is
API SG SH\JF JASO MA.

For what its worth.

Maybe someone out there knows what all of that means.

 

I found a brief description of what some of those ratings mean.
API stands for the American Petroleum Institute, which provides standards high quality oils must meet.

SJ was adopted in 1996 and covers oils used in gasoline engines in current and earlier passenger cars, sport utility vehicles, vans and light trucks operated under vehicle manufacturers' recommended maintenance procedures. SJ oils may be used where SH and earlier categories have been recommended.

SH applies to gasoline engines in cars, vans and light trucks and indicates that the oil provides improved control of engine deposits, oil oxidization, and engine wear compared to earlier oils. It also provides protection against rust and corrosion.

CF was adopted in 1994 for use in indirect injected off-road diesel engines that use a broad range of fuels, including those with a high sulfur content. It offers effective control of piston deposits, wear and corrosion of the copper-coated bearings used in this type of engine.

CF-2 is formulated for use in two-stroke diesel engines requiring highly effective control over cylinder and ring-face scuffing and deposits.

CF-4 covers oils for use in high-speed, four-stroke diesel engines. They are designed for use in on-highway, heavy-duty truck applications.

CG-4 describes oils for use in high-speed, four-stroke diesel engines, and is suitable for both highway and off-road applications. They provide effective control of high temperature piston deposits, wear, corrosion, foaming, oxidation stability and soot accumulation. These oils are especially effective in engines required to meet 1994 emission standards.

SAE stands for Society of Automotive Engineers. Motor oils have SAE grades, or numbers that indicate viscosity. In other words, the SAE numbers tell you the "thickness" of the oil. The lower the number, the "thinner" the oil.

W signifies its winter rating, showing that it will perform well in particularly cold weather.

When you buy oil, or have it changed, be sure not only to pick the right API rating for your engine, but ask for the SAE viscosity recommended in your owner's manual. Normally, manufacturers recommend multi-viscosity grades, which are suitable for use over a wide temperature range.

 

Go to http//www.shell.ca/code/produc You will see in the Lubricants Report, Applications, Both FormulaShell (dino) and FormulaShell Synthetic Blend have passed the tests required for JASO 903T,MA Quality and may be used in 4-cycle motorcycles. These are Auto oils.

 

Have any of you heard of a brand MOTUL? My local dealer sells it. It's 100% synthetic for 2 strokes(600 racing 2t) that can be used as a premix or injector. Is it any good? Just thought I ask since we're on the subject of oil!