think i am buying a mojave
#1
well, went on the first ride on my trailblazer yesterday sense i rebuilt the top end, and i soon found out that the bottom end needs to be replaced. (died, wouldnt start, makes funny sounds) and i decided i am going with a 4 stroke, so i plan on fixing my wheeler, selling that, and then selling my 96 cr125 and buying a 2002 mojave. can you guys tell me how you like yours, and what pipe to get right away ( dont like 4 stroke stock sound) well thanks guys.. soon to join yous
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Buddy, the mojave is like cheers or the the cosby show. It was great in its day and it's still GOOD so it has staying power. That darn thing has been I around since I was young teenager back in 86 or 87. Times have changed...especially for 4 strokes. The Mojave was the considered the most powerful and quickest thumper back in the day against the 250X and Quadsport. Now it's a good rerun but there better choices now. look around, C-dales, the new Z400, 400EX and kawi will soon have their 400 out...supposedly. The Mojave is a bit outdated and timid compared to these machines and you gotta dump some cash into it to get some real power.
Speaking of power, if you have a CR125, I think you'll a little disspointed. Ever consider a used 2 stroke 250? If not, I'd look into something a little newer. Just my 2 cents....
Speaking of power, if you have a CR125, I think you'll a little disspointed. Ever consider a used 2 stroke 250? If not, I'd look into something a little newer. Just my 2 cents....
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Well as far as buying a mojave and lakota, it's up in the air if you ask me.
The lakota is heavier, auto clutch, but is said to have a tid bit better track times and better suspention. Well the mags say that.
Mojave is a standard 5 speed manual clutch with a kick start, and is a ton of fun.
The mojave has been out a while, but the raptor, Z, and c-dale have JUST past up it's technology.
Both machines need $300 rite away to be compettitive. In the woods racing department they are very compettitive with the bigger bores. The main thing they leave out in these forums is you can have a 100 hp, but you have to be able to ride it.
I can't speak for you, but with all my mods I still have less than $5,000 in mine, where that wouldn't even get you started on any of the big bores. They start at 5600 and go over 10K.
As far as a 2 stroke if you like to ride, don't get one. If you like to wrench, get one.
Not attacking a 2 stroke, just stating fact.
I sold a 96 CR 250 to buy my lakota and yes it doesn't compare. But there is ABSOLUTELY no quad made now or never that would EVER come close to a MX bike.
The lakota is heavier, auto clutch, but is said to have a tid bit better track times and better suspention. Well the mags say that.
Mojave is a standard 5 speed manual clutch with a kick start, and is a ton of fun.
The mojave has been out a while, but the raptor, Z, and c-dale have JUST past up it's technology.
Both machines need $300 rite away to be compettitive. In the woods racing department they are very compettitive with the bigger bores. The main thing they leave out in these forums is you can have a 100 hp, but you have to be able to ride it.
I can't speak for you, but with all my mods I still have less than $5,000 in mine, where that wouldn't even get you started on any of the big bores. They start at 5600 and go over 10K.
As far as a 2 stroke if you like to ride, don't get one. If you like to wrench, get one.
Not attacking a 2 stroke, just stating fact.
I sold a 96 CR 250 to buy my lakota and yes it doesn't compare. But there is ABSOLUTELY no quad made now or never that would EVER come close to a MX bike.
#6
hey Gaff, don't you have a Tecate 4? I assumed by one of your answers in a thread I put up once that you did.
I love my KXF but I know what you mean about upkeep. I don't ride enough to need to dump a lot of time into my Tecate 4. I do maybe 3-5 hours of GOOD riding a week...usually all in one day. I think about picking up a nice casual thumper sometimes...like a mojave (hehehe) for those days my brain feels lazy and I just want to go for a ride and relax. My friend races a 250R but rides an EX for fun and poking around. He tells me what nice change of pace it is.
I love my KXF but I know what you mean about upkeep. I don't ride enough to need to dump a lot of time into my Tecate 4. I do maybe 3-5 hours of GOOD riding a week...usually all in one day. I think about picking up a nice casual thumper sometimes...like a mojave (hehehe) for those days my brain feels lazy and I just want to go for a ride and relax. My friend races a 250R but rides an EX for fun and poking around. He tells me what nice change of pace it is.
#7
I like my Mojave.But it's had a couple of problems.I bought it new last june.I had to bore it because the cylinder wasn't round,the bike runs out of gas but theres still lots of gas in the tank.
I replaced the stock exhaust system with a supertrapp because my stock spark arrester came loose in the muffler.The supertrapp really woke it up.It was a little sluggish in 4th-5th gear with my 200lbs of lard on it.Now it will hit the rev limiter in 5th no problem.
The stock tires are great for traction but wear out quickly and are not very puncture resistant.The stock skid plate for the chain/disc brake is flimsy,came off on my first ride.
The bike is a little small for tall people and it is getting dated,I don't think they have changed anything besides the color in the 15 years or so that it's been made.
It's a good beginner bike and a great trail bike for the price.
I replaced the stock exhaust system with a supertrapp because my stock spark arrester came loose in the muffler.The supertrapp really woke it up.It was a little sluggish in 4th-5th gear with my 200lbs of lard on it.Now it will hit the rev limiter in 5th no problem.
The stock tires are great for traction but wear out quickly and are not very puncture resistant.The stock skid plate for the chain/disc brake is flimsy,came off on my first ride.
The bike is a little small for tall people and it is getting dated,I don't think they have changed anything besides the color in the 15 years or so that it's been made.
It's a good beginner bike and a great trail bike for the price.
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#8
No chris I don't have one. Many times I wished I did for racing.
I'm not rich so the only way I can mod and buy bikes and quads is I work on super sport street bikes on my time off. Sense I got into quads last summer I have been working on quads as well. Actually I work on quads more than the street bikes now.
I Have been working on the R's sense 86 when my brother got his first one. To this day he still races R's, so I still do alot of work on them even know we live a 1000 miles apart.
I comment on the lack of reliability more freakwently lately due to the work I have been doing on them. Just this past week I had to heli coil a entire R engine. Just 2 days ago I talked with a feller from naples flarida who was absolutely frustrated about his lt250R. He had sunk 3K into it and when it was done he put 4 hours on it and the head bolts pulled the threads. Well we all know the head gasket went and now he has to tear it all down and get it heli coiled.
The older engines just need to much work for some one who can't do it them selves. I've made particular note of the huge cost jump from bikes to quads. I believe the quad riders realy get screwwed just because the growing popularity of the sport.
I believe the mojave is very compettitive for it's class. You put it up against all thumpers 350cc's and below it still is one of the best quads.
The quad sport arena has lost it's self temporarely. Now the bigger bores are out poeple are thinking quads from the warrior on down are absolete. In fact this is not true. Many of the series that run across the country have made note of this. Now we see more and more sport classes that are limited to 350cc's, to include the blaster.
If the racing world doesn't recognize the class differences soon the initial cost of a quad intended to be raced goes up to about 6K to 10K. Then these quads still need 2K to be compettitive.
So thier is a place for the smaller bore quads. We have to keep entry level. For the average joe (like me) dumping 5K in a quad is a big deal. But for the average youngster who is getting into racing this is going to be a good starting point. As of this past year you would need a motorcycle engine powered quad just to be compettitive in the C class.
Now in the MX bike world no one considers the 2 stroke 125 or yzf 250 entry level racers now do they.
Sorry I rambled on but for this feller, if he can get a moe for 3600 and then dump 300 in mods into it. For 3900 he has something that could run with not so experienced riders on the big bores. To be honest I don't see these smaller bores winning a hole bunch in open class racing. But I sure see them in top 5 spots quite a bit.
I'm not rich so the only way I can mod and buy bikes and quads is I work on super sport street bikes on my time off. Sense I got into quads last summer I have been working on quads as well. Actually I work on quads more than the street bikes now.
I Have been working on the R's sense 86 when my brother got his first one. To this day he still races R's, so I still do alot of work on them even know we live a 1000 miles apart.
I comment on the lack of reliability more freakwently lately due to the work I have been doing on them. Just this past week I had to heli coil a entire R engine. Just 2 days ago I talked with a feller from naples flarida who was absolutely frustrated about his lt250R. He had sunk 3K into it and when it was done he put 4 hours on it and the head bolts pulled the threads. Well we all know the head gasket went and now he has to tear it all down and get it heli coiled.
The older engines just need to much work for some one who can't do it them selves. I've made particular note of the huge cost jump from bikes to quads. I believe the quad riders realy get screwwed just because the growing popularity of the sport.
I believe the mojave is very compettitive for it's class. You put it up against all thumpers 350cc's and below it still is one of the best quads.
The quad sport arena has lost it's self temporarely. Now the bigger bores are out poeple are thinking quads from the warrior on down are absolete. In fact this is not true. Many of the series that run across the country have made note of this. Now we see more and more sport classes that are limited to 350cc's, to include the blaster.
If the racing world doesn't recognize the class differences soon the initial cost of a quad intended to be raced goes up to about 6K to 10K. Then these quads still need 2K to be compettitive.
So thier is a place for the smaller bore quads. We have to keep entry level. For the average joe (like me) dumping 5K in a quad is a big deal. But for the average youngster who is getting into racing this is going to be a good starting point. As of this past year you would need a motorcycle engine powered quad just to be compettitive in the C class.
Now in the MX bike world no one considers the 2 stroke 125 or yzf 250 entry level racers now do they.
Sorry I rambled on but for this feller, if he can get a moe for 3600 and then dump 300 in mods into it. For 3900 he has something that could run with not so experienced riders on the big bores. To be honest I don't see these smaller bores winning a hole bunch in open class racing. But I sure see them in top 5 spots quite a bit.
#9
thanks for advice people, the reason i am considering a mojave is because i am only going to have about $4,000 to spend and i want to buy new this time, i am sick of buying other peoples problems. i need to replace the bottom end on my wheeler, then its for sale, my bike is running fine and i already have a few people intersted in that, it will be up for sale next week.
now i figure, sell my bike for $1,500 or so, sell my trailblazer for $2,000 and use the $450 i got saved up, and i can get a mojave. if i really needed to, i could sell my 1984 polaris 340 snowmobile =P. its in mint condition so thats another $500 - $800 to add onto my budget.
the only other quad i am considering is a 300ex. i am still not sure, but i think the mojave is the way im going.
now i figure, sell my bike for $1,500 or so, sell my trailblazer for $2,000 and use the $450 i got saved up, and i can get a mojave. if i really needed to, i could sell my 1984 polaris 340 snowmobile =P. its in mint condition so thats another $500 - $800 to add onto my budget.
the only other quad i am considering is a 300ex. i am still not sure, but i think the mojave is the way im going.
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