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Old 10-16-2002, 07:57 PM
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when was the last time it was started before?
 
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Old 10-16-2002, 08:17 PM
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iszdan, we where hunting the stanley area, our camp was at 7600 feet and with a digital thermometer that has been very accurate that was the reading we had at 6 a.m.

Last week while deer hunting the elk where in the rut and bugling strong, this weekend they had stopped. I did not hear a single shot and I saw plenty of hunters. Oh well, there is always next weekend.

albaBANSHE, the quads had been started and ran 12 hours before.
 
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Old 10-16-2002, 08:22 PM
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This is what I do when my 650 has been sitting a while and I know it may be hard to start/warmup. I turn the key on and also make sure the red kill switch is on. You will here a whine which is the fuel pump pressuring the system. I wait till it stops and then turn the key off and then on again. The fuel pump will run again. I do this sequence several times and it seems to make warmup shorter and starting easier.
Huh?! Are you sure that wasn't the engine braking servo in set-up mode that you heard running? I've never heard my fuel pump run before nor can I see why a pump would have to be restarted several times to fill the carbs.[img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-confused.gif[/img]
 
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Old 10-17-2002, 12:10 AM
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Originally posted by: Chuckybrown
Originally posted by: packardbell15ur just wasting money with premium fuelive never heard of ppl having problems starting itsometimes i leave the choke in on accident and it kills itafter all it was 5 degrees, sometimes you dont even need to give it gas when starting, just a lil chokeare u sure u tried everything?
Wasting money on premium fuel? Packardbell---read your owners manual.......Chucky


Chucky,
Packardbell is correct. Running premium fuel in the Prairie is a waste of money and it will make it harder to start in cold weather.
Re-read your owners manual page 47. Antiknock minimum requirement is 87. RON(research octane number) minmum requirement is 91. All octane ratings posted on gas pumps are an average of research octane and Motor octane. Any fuel that has an octane rating of 87 posted on the pump will meet the RON requirement of 91 for the Prairie. It is a widely held belief that higher octane fuel burns faster and makes more horsepower than low octane fuel when in fact it is exactly opposite. High octane fuel burns slower and will make less horsepower than premium.
With 9:1 compression the Prairie doesn't need the slower burning fuel.
Do a web search for octane ratings and you will find more info than you ever wanted to know about the when, where and why of octane ratings.

Ya'll really had me going for a minute about the primer. I was wondering how in the heck I could have missed that! Turns out only Canadian models were equipped with a primer.

 
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Old 10-17-2002, 02:24 AM
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no comment chuckbrown!!!LOL. iforgot that winston cup cars run regular pump 87oct!!! comment not for you chucky, but some people will never figure it out.....
 
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Old 10-17-2002, 03:52 AM
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also the american 400 prairie has the same priming pump. whats up with that?
 
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Old 10-17-2002, 06:34 AM
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I will have to look and see if mine has a primer. It may be a werth while up grade to do for this winter.
 
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Old 10-17-2002, 09:41 AM
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Originally posted by: scootdog
no comment chuckbrown!!!LOL. iforgot that winston cup cars run regular pump 87oct!!! comment not for you chucky, but some people will never figure it out.....
Obviously some people never will figure it out! Winston cup racers run high octane fuel because they also run 14:1 compression and 87 octane fuel would blow these engines up.

Read this if your so inclined
<a href="READ THIS" target="http://www.ftc.gov/bcp/conline/pubs/autos/octane.htm&gt;READ" THIS&lt;&gt;&lt;BR A&gt;</A>
http://www.ftc.gov/bcp/conline/pubs/autos/octane.htm
 
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Old 10-18-2002, 03:03 AM
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i guess i`d better tell that darn 650 to get with the program and quit running like garbage on "87" octane...
 
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