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650 keyswitch ?

Old Dec 25, 2002 | 09:17 AM
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I experienced a nostart yesterday and I was about 10 miles out in the middle of nowhere, it would crank but wouldn't start. Scared me! Solved the problem by cycling the keyswitch. I seem to vaguely remember seeing a couple of posts on this a long time ago. What is the issue and what is the solution?
Colder than heck and a lot of snow but everything seemed dry.

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Old Dec 25, 2002 | 12:48 PM
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Man, been there, done THAT!!

Yes, if you don't have the key "all the way" to the run start position, it will crank but not fire. Scared me too once.....over twenty miles from base. My buddy was already unraveling his two strap when I figured it out. I had leaned back on my seat to rest, and bumpted the key just enough with my boot to cause the problem!

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Old Dec 26, 2002 | 08:13 AM
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YEP--- Mine does that, too. You have to make sure to turn it to the "RUN" position in a "deliberate" manner. It really had me worried, the first time it did it!! No problem, now that I know about it.
 
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Old Dec 26, 2002 | 01:29 PM
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Mine did that once too.
 
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Old Dec 26, 2002 | 08:28 PM
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Well I'm kinda glad that mine isn't the only one. Still doesn't give me a lot of confodence in it though. My experience with switches that do this is that they never get better or stay the same. Eventually it will totally fail!
While we're on the subject of cranking. How fast should this thing crank? Seems awfully slow. Haven't put a tach on it while cranking but I would guess about 100rpm.
Does anyone think they could actually pull start this beast? I'm kind of a little guy and the one time I tried it "hot" I nearly slipped three disks. Didn't fire either. Of course me being right handed and the fact that it won't start unless the throttle is cracked might have had something to do with it.
 
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Old Dec 27, 2002 | 07:48 AM
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Wolley--- The compression release system makes it sound weird while cranking.
Back to the igniton switch. You might try to get it warranteed, if you can get it to fail for the dealer. I don't worry about it. I carry enough stuff to hot-wire it if need arises.
 
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Old Dec 27, 2002 | 09:00 AM
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I am 5'4", 180.....and I have pull started it many times. Stand on the runningboard, and give it a hard tug. It actually does not take much to get it to crank. You need to crank it by hand from time to time to make sure the recoil starter winds back in. Mine gummed up from lack of use and with mud, and when I went to pullstart it, the rope stayed out. I spent an hour cleaning it. Now it is part of my regular maintenance.

 
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Old Dec 28, 2002 | 12:10 PM
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I've never had my key switch act up, but the first time my friend pulled my recoil fur fun it stayed out. Another friend of mine has a wolverine with the exact same recoil had the same problem after getting dirty. We rigged up a shim behind the bolt on that holds the spring on his 3 months ago. The shim help the mud/dirt trapped in side from making the nut and bolt tighten on them selfs causing the rope not to recoil. Since then when ever he rode, he test the recoil and never had a problem, even after having the wheeler stuck deeper then the recoil. We did the same to my p650 and no problems either.
 
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