Need help please!

Last Christmas we bought our grandson a new 50cc Kazuma, when he went to ride it one day, it wouldn't start, we let is sit a while before taking it in for repair....

We are limited in Kazuma dealers in our area, there are only two and one is a couple hundred miles from us...

We took it in for repair to the one Kazuma dealer, nearest to us, it has been there at least six weeks already... He told us he would have it ready in a few days, it's been over a month, we just called him and he said he hasn't had a chance to look at it yet...

Is there any way my husband can fix this himself?......Like I said, one day, it just wouldn't start, the mechanic who looked at it, said there was "no compression".. My husband said it had compression before it broke down...The mechanic said he would check the rings, that it could be the valves as well....We're going to go pick it up but are at a loss at who to bring it to for repair, I was wondering if my husband could fix this himself?

Any information on getting this fixed would be deeply appreciated!!!!

 

Sounds like your mini is still under warranty (re: your last Christmas comment)? If it is, only fluid and minor tweaking changes can be done. Engine work, tranny work and some carb work could void the warranty. Some dealers purposely look for warranty void excuses. Hence, they charge the customer more for repairs.

If you mean "last Christmas as in 2003" then you unit probably isn't under warranty anymore. If so, then many specialized mini-quad, adult quad and/or small engine place could work on your Kazuma - assuming they can obtain parts directly from Kazuma Corp. The problem could range from "a stuck valve" to "complete engine rebuild". Without more details, it's hard to say what the cause of the problem could be. But I do know from reading other forums that Kazuma motors are "near Honda clones", but they do have many ring / piston and head problems. Perhaps that's why your current dealer is suggesting he needs to look at the rings & valves.

Regarding service.... I know what you mean!!! My original AC dealer sucked as well. A few times, they called me and left messages stating "my part" was in or my unit was ready for pick up. When I drove there, they couldn't find my part or their mechanic was still working on my unit. After the 4th BS incident from them, I swore I'd never go back to them. And to this day, I haven't. Too bad you don't have other Kazuma dealers in your area. If you did, you could never return to your current dealer as well.

Hope this helps - somehow....

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Thanks so much for the input Spike, much appreciated!

My husband called his friend who has a Harley and is used to working on bikes and has agreed to work on the Kazuma for our grandson.

 

One thing you might try before tearing into the motor is check the valves. I don't have any clue about your motor, but I heard the commit of it being like a Honda. I take it, the cyclinder is not straight up and down? More angled towards the front? If so, alot of these "type" motors will run a good while and the vavles will tend to either burn into the seats or something to that effect. Next thing you know, the rocker arms will hold the valve open just enough to not let it run. (by loosing the compression) I don't know if it will help you any at all, but you might want to check/ adjust the valves before really tearing into it. (our old Yamaha Badger would do the same thing about once a year. 10 minutes to adjust the valves and it would be ready for another year.)

 

Thank you asfasasu3, that is exactly what my friend and husband plan to do first..."Great minds think alike"....lol ...

I appreciate you input as well!!!

 

it's a 4 stroke?

 

Yes, it's a 4 stroke.

 

Try changing the spark plug first. Thoes little quads seem to go through a lot of them (CR6HSA) As far as your dealer problem goes that is normal for Kazuma most of them are just in for a fast buck and do not care after they sell it. Parts are very hard to get for them too.

They look like a Honda 50 motor but they are not.

 

Thanks Harw! As far as the dealer problem, it turns out he was out for the buck!

My husband and our friend picked up the Kazuma today from the dealer, our friend tested it, no compression problem at all... The compression was fine... The first thing our friend is going to do, is change the spark plug and clean the carburetor....I'll let you know how it all turns out... Thanks for all the input, much appreciated!

 

We would all hope that our dealers were good people, but unfortunately, when dealing with the container dealers who only have to have enough cash to buy a whole container full of crates to become a dealer, they are not always good people to deal with. And you don't find this out until after the sale. Parts are another issue that has been discussed in other threads... and one trait is common with these... you need to do a lot more work yourself on them... I know this sounds silly, but how old was the gas when you originally had a problem? Could you have gummed up the carb somehow? These little 50's really foul plugs at an alarming rate too. Even my son'e yamaha does this, and I have tried to adjust teh carb to no avail.

It sounds to me that a stuck valve sounds like a good candidate as someone has suggested. Sure hope you have good luck with it.

I know it is too late for you, but could you please update the rest of us, in case we have the same thing happen to us in the future?