Yamoto 110cc failure
#1
Yamoto 110cc failure
I just joind so be nice, haha I have just became a dealer for Yamoto. I wanted to start small, so I purchased 9 110cc models. I was advised by them, that there were some issues; however, it was thought that all the bad units had been located. Well, as luck should have it, they were not. After assembling all 9 units, 1 unit had a horrible rattle in 2nd gear, Patriot sending new motor, 2nd unit, MY FIRSY SELL, blew up 3rd gear 15 miutes after delivery, took the customer a new unit the next day, 20 minutes into the ride, BAM, a terrible rattle in all gears even IDLE. So here is what I have done. stopped all advertising until I find out the problem.
1st- soon as the units were assembled, the oil was dranied and replaced with 20/50
2nd- units have not been ridden hard, these were slow non-aggressive rides around a flat field or yard
3rd- I have checked the bolts that attach the shaft drive and they are tight
Patriot has been very cooperative and understanding, but slow to return calls, but very willing to fix these issues.
My problem is that all threads that I have been able to locate have been positive about these units, does anyone have these issues?
Thanks Steve
1st- soon as the units were assembled, the oil was dranied and replaced with 20/50
2nd- units have not been ridden hard, these were slow non-aggressive rides around a flat field or yard
3rd- I have checked the bolts that attach the shaft drive and they are tight
Patriot has been very cooperative and understanding, but slow to return calls, but very willing to fix these issues.
My problem is that all threads that I have been able to locate have been positive about these units, does anyone have these issues?
Thanks Steve
#2
Yamoto 110cc failure
Originally posted by: SNSGRAPHICS
I just joind so be nice, haha I have just became a dealer for Yamoto. I wanted to start small, so I purchased 9 110cc models. I was advised by them, that there were some issues; however, it was thought that all the bad units had been located. Well, as luck should have it, they were not. After assembling all 9 units, 1 unit had a horrible rattle in 2nd gear, Patriot sending new motor, 2nd unit, MY FIRSY SELL, blew up 3rd gear 15 miutes after delivery, took the customer a new unit the next day, 20 minutes into the ride, BAM, a terrible rattle in all gears even IDLE. So here is what I have done. stopped all advertising until I find out the problem.
1st- soon as the units were assembled, the oil was dranied and replaced with 20/50
2nd- units have not been ridden hard, these were slow non-aggressive rides around a flat field or yard
3rd- I have checked the bolts that attach the shaft drive and they are tight
Patriot has been very cooperative and understanding, but slow to return calls, but very willing to fix these issues.
My problem is that all threads that I have been able to locate have been positive about these units, does anyone have these issues?
Thanks Steve
I just joind so be nice, haha I have just became a dealer for Yamoto. I wanted to start small, so I purchased 9 110cc models. I was advised by them, that there were some issues; however, it was thought that all the bad units had been located. Well, as luck should have it, they were not. After assembling all 9 units, 1 unit had a horrible rattle in 2nd gear, Patriot sending new motor, 2nd unit, MY FIRSY SELL, blew up 3rd gear 15 miutes after delivery, took the customer a new unit the next day, 20 minutes into the ride, BAM, a terrible rattle in all gears even IDLE. So here is what I have done. stopped all advertising until I find out the problem.
1st- soon as the units were assembled, the oil was dranied and replaced with 20/50
2nd- units have not been ridden hard, these were slow non-aggressive rides around a flat field or yard
3rd- I have checked the bolts that attach the shaft drive and they are tight
Patriot has been very cooperative and understanding, but slow to return calls, but very willing to fix these issues.
My problem is that all threads that I have been able to locate have been positive about these units, does anyone have these issues?
Thanks Steve
#3
Yamoto 110cc failure
That is normal for them to die that quick. I have a bike shop and checked into selling the Kusuma, Yamoto line too and after talking to some dealers that already sell them and trying to get out from under them. I was happy I did not get into them. The dealers I talked to all liked the Eton,Lem, Xtream and Dinli. They tell me they have very few problems with them and parts are very easy to get.
#4
Yamoto 110cc failure
I changed the 20/50 because that is what Patrit advised me to do. NOt familiar with the Zmax warranty, I am new to this. I spoke with Patriot today, and thay are working with me, SO we will see. I will keep you posted. Also, do you know how to adjust the auto clutch so they shift easier? I have 1 unit that will not shift from reverse to neutral unless you turn it off. Thanks Steve
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Yamoto 110cc failure
Originally posted by: Harw
That is normal for them to die that quick. I have a bike shop and checked into selling the Kusuma, Yamoto line too and after talking to some dealers that already sell them and trying to get out from under them. I was happy I did not get into them. The dealers I talked to all liked the Eton,Lem, Xtream and Dinli. They tell me they have very few problems with them and parts are very easy to get.
That is normal for them to die that quick. I have a bike shop and checked into selling the Kusuma, Yamoto line too and after talking to some dealers that already sell them and trying to get out from under them. I was happy I did not get into them. The dealers I talked to all liked the Eton,Lem, Xtream and Dinli. They tell me they have very few problems with them and parts are very easy to get.
Thanks for the information. have you heard any solutions for the 110? or if the 150 or 250 have problems aswell. thanks
#6
Yamoto 110cc failure
Originally posted by: SNSGRAPHICS
I changed the 20/50 because that is what Patrit advised me to do. NOt familiar with the Zmax warranty, I am new to this. I spoke with Patriot today, and thay are working with me, SO we will see. I will keep you posted. Also, do you know how to adjust the auto clutch so they shift easier? I have 1 unit that will not shift from reverse to neutral unless you turn it off. Thanks Steve
I changed the 20/50 because that is what Patrit advised me to do. NOt familiar with the Zmax warranty, I am new to this. I spoke with Patriot today, and thay are working with me, SO we will see. I will keep you posted. Also, do you know how to adjust the auto clutch so they shift easier? I have 1 unit that will not shift from reverse to neutral unless you turn it off. Thanks Steve
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#8
Yamoto 110cc failure
Originally posted by: SNSGRAPHICS
Yeah, I thought 20/50 was thick also, but Jeff in service assured me that was what I should use. Well, thanks a million, I hope that I have better luck with the 150's. do you have any tips?
Yeah, I thought 20/50 was thick also, but Jeff in service assured me that was what I should use. Well, thanks a million, I hope that I have better luck with the 150's. do you have any tips?
#9
Yamoto 110cc failure
Originally posted by: SNSGRAPHICS
Yeah, I thought 20/50 was thick also, but Jeff in service assured me that was what I should use. Well, thanks a million, I hope that I have better luck with the 150's. do you have any tips?
Yeah, I thought 20/50 was thick also, but Jeff in service assured me that was what I should use. Well, thanks a million, I hope that I have better luck with the 150's. do you have any tips?
#10
Yamoto 110cc failure
I'm not shure what the dealers were going to do with them. Get some names and phone numbers of some other Yamoto dealers. Maybe they can help you through these problems.
Any time you want to start selling any thing like this have the dist. give you the names and phone numbers of at least six dealers so you can call them and check out the co.. This is the fastest way to sort out the bad products.
Any time you want to start selling any thing like this have the dist. give you the names and phone numbers of at least six dealers so you can call them and check out the co.. This is the fastest way to sort out the bad products.