my buddy just bought the kazum 110 sport quad with the single a-arm front and what a nightmare. we were out riding at el mirage this weekend and there where 2 of the kazumas out there. both ended up with broken plastics all around. the problem is with the front single a-arm when jumping, the wheels turn in / \ when u land kinda front first and basically lock up. NO JOKE. two of the kids rolled the quads within 1hr of eachother end over end. l l i think this is why the front shocks are so stiff. also the battery falls right out of the plastic holder. do u think there is any liability to kazuma on this?

 

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it's real noticeable when you put real shocks on these quads and actually allow the suspension to move. not only is handling erratic when landing jumps, but general steering feel is extremely vague. i'd guess the front wheels toe in about 5-10º per side when fully compressed.

many of these 110cc 4-stroke quads have SEVERE bump-steer issues. unfortunately, although the chinese are very good at copying designs from various other oems, they have little knowledge of atv design. in the case of the suspension geometry they located the steering stem / inner tie rod pivots too high. they should have located them inline with the a-arm pivots.

i've modified mine by relocating the lower steering stem mount, and lengthened the stem about 2". absolutely no bump steer now.

 

Do you have any pictures of the modifications? That would be great to see. There are some pictures of mods done to my wifes yamoto at my photo page if your interested.

 

There will be no liability on these quads because they are NOT meant to be jumped. These are not mx quads and yes the suspension is very stiff. My son has had his for a few months now. He rides hard but does not jump and it has performed perfect. Runs great and takes him wherever he wants to go. I would NEVER trust one of these to jump. Some people are changing the suspension and they work much better. The newer ones have dual a-arms and better suspension and they work a heck of alot better. They will get better as the years go. I think every one here can agree that the single a arm atv's need to have wheel spacers on the front. My son has 6" spacers on the front (3" each side) and the suspension works pretty well.

 

2manytoys, where did you purchase the 3" spacers?? Also on your pictures of the 110, are they already installed, or no? Thanks, Tim.

 

they arnt jumping the tripple. normal kids jumps. like one footers. if they arnt supposed to do that then dont call them an atv. call it a seat with wheels that shouldnt come off the ground.

 

TimN,
The spacers are not installed in the pics. They cost around $60. I have to look at the reciept. I cant remember what company I bought them from.


Sandattic,

So what you are saying is that ALL atv's are made to jump? These are starter, entry level low cost atv's. You really cant expect them to hold up under abnormal conditions. If you read ANY youth atv warnings they say they are NOT reccomended for jumping. You would not take a Grizzly or a Polaris 700 and do some doubles or triples with them but they are still atv's. All I am trying to say is you pay $1200 for a chinese quad and you expect it to perform like a $2500 Yamaha then you should have spent the 2500 on the real thing. These are cheap, reliable atv's for the beginner or average rider. You cant blame the company. They are improving with consumer and dealer input so they can compete with the higher dollar name brands. They now have dual a arms, softer suspension and other upgrades from the previous year.

 

2many, so what you're saying is that this years atv with the double a-arm suspension and rear disc brakes u will be able to jump?

"All I am trying to say is you pay $1200 for a chinese quad and you expect it to perform like a $2500 Yamaha then you should have spent the 2500 on the real thing"

so where is yamaha and suzuki based at ? i know i dont expect them to last as long as the (name brands) but i do not expect them to be a hazard. if im not mistaken they are advertised as a sport quad not a utillity quad. they have a major flaw in the front end. just for the sake of it, lets say my son went down a very steep hill and when he came to the bottom of it the g force from going down to planing out was the same as jumping and landing on the front end. now what? the wheels /\ angle in, lock up and he goes over the bars. well, i guess it wasnt made for that either. im not bashing quality im after the safety.

 

I dont think you should expect the same performance from a $1200.00 quad that you get from a $2500.00 quad. There is a reason they are so inexpensive.