I am new to this group, I want to buy 2 Atvs, One for my 6 year old Daughter, which I think I will buy a Kazuma 50cc to start her with.They seem to be just right in price,saftey for a starter.The problem is what ATV I should get.I always do research before I buy anything .I have looked at Honda, Susuki, Kazuma,The Kazuma is of course less money then the other 2 majors.But I have always believed that you get what you pay for. Would you Kazuma owners recomend this Atv line for adults. I am looking for something that is durable that wont break all the time. I am not a hard rider just lighty riding around with the family.Of course the Honda, Susuki dealers say stay away from those china atvs.I went to a dealer in Houston to look at the Falcon Adult 250,the first thing he said to me was , I am pulling all the Adult 250 off my website because they have a cooling problem and I wont sell anymore untill Kazuma fixes the problem . I dont want to hear anymore complaints , so that kind of bursted my bubble on the idea.He said that the 150 would be a better bike for me .I am 5.5" 168 lbs.He said that the air cooled models run better and the cv automatic trans never have any problems. They dont have demos so I cant make my mind up. What I need to know from you guys is , Would you buy one of these kazumas, or should I just spend more money and buy one of the majors?Thanks for all you help.

 

If you want reliablilty go with the major brands. Your in you get what you pay for.

 

I don't have any experiance in the cheaper quad brands, but even if you were a beginner, being an adult justifies getting a quad bigger than a 150. Me personally, I would buy from a major brand just so you can always find parts if needed and they will resale higher if needed. lol. Get at least a 250 Then If you love the sport you can get a bigger one and maybe move the wife into the 250, and enjoy it as a family. Stick with the liquid cooled with what ever you get, when you ride with your daughter you will be running 1st and 2nd gear most of the time and a air-cooled will always overheat in that situation. Anyway you go, you now will be making some killer memories with your daughter and thats the most important part. =]

 

Jcmgroom,

Really cost compare. Run all your numbers and ask yourself how much time you will really spend on riding. Think about your budget. I own one Chinese product right now and its a quad. In fact it's the only quad we own. The rest of us in the family ride bikes. I do not regret the quad purchase at all. Another thing to consider is reliability. You do get better quality from most higher priced quads but think about this. They all break at one time or another. It just depends how your treat and take of of your quads. Can you do your own repairs? And if you can, do you really like to repair them or would you rather take them into a dealer for the repairs. Now as far as parts go, you will be able to get parts for any quad you buy. But obviousally for the Chinese quad you may have to look around harder to find them instead of going down to your local Japanese Dealer.

Consider the Kazuma 50cc as a starter. Let your daughter ride it around on your property. See how it performs. Sure you may put out $600.00 bucks for the quad, but it's better than $2500.00 to find out she does not like to ride.

Now on your quad I would do like most here will suggest and get something with proven reliability. Even if you have to buy it used. But if it is necessary to get the Chinese quad look at the Redcat VX models 150cc and 200cc. They are pretty decent. And if you do buy the Chinese quads and want a trusted dealer consider Raceway you can't go wrong there. (PARTS and SERVICE).

Don't forget about all the gear for you and your daughter. Add up what your daughters gear will cost. It will be half the cost of the Chinese quad. This is for gear on sale or lower end product. Now if you buy top of the line gear it will cost you more than the Kazuma 50. But buy that gear. Safety First. Now again these are just my opinions and they don't mean anything. Just something for you to think about. Buy what you feel is right for you and your daughter.

Good luck and I hope you two will be riding soon.

Be safe.

SB.

 

I myself toyed with the idea of getting a Chinese made atv for my 7 year old son in the past but after reading the posts on this and other forums of some of the problems folks had with these units from the start, I decided against it. I have a friend that has a shop that sells the Kazuma just 50 miles away and he offered me a great deal on a 90cc quad. But I decided to pay the extra grand or so and buy an atv with a proven engine and tranny design.
Even after 3 months of hard riding, the Honda TRX90 has yet to let me down.....and my son is hard on that machine. It runs so smooth, shifts so easy and is simple in design but is very well constructed.

But you are the buyer so you make the decision and I wish you good luck on the purchase of whatever you buy.

 

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If water, mud and crud is the young rider's passion, then stay away from the 2 strokes. Get a 4 stroke instead. The 4 strokes have sealed electrical systems, have sealled tranny systems and are open air cooled.

If water, mud and crud, get a mini with hydro disc brakes. Foot control if you can find one. Or, buy the optional foot control system that some dealers sell. If wondering, non-sealed brake drums do get crud in them and when you least expect it, there's NO or extreme limited brakes on the mini. Disc brakes are much easier to clean and inspect. Many call open disc systems self cleaning. Much better then drum brakes.

If trail riding, get a mini with DRLs (Daytime Running Lights). Some brands include DRLs as their base config and others sell light kits as optional add-ons. And some parts dealers on this forum sell DRLs as add-ons as well. If you can't find a light kit and your mini has a battery, you can install your own DRLs. If you need this info, let me know. I'll send you the details how we installed 2 x 10W (or 1x10W and 1x20W) dual DRLs on our '03 Pred-90. If installing lights, install a dual function tail light as well. Yes, even for daytime riding. I can provide the details on how to do this upgrade yourself as well.

If trail riding, check with the trail officials in your area. Some have mandatory Spart Arrestors. Some dealers sell them and sometimes, you have to get this add-on from 3rd party parts specialists. RE: From the parts dealers on this forum.

Do look at "usable" suspension depth. Some brands of minis have lots of advertised suspension depth but one needs to be 250lbs to use their full depth. A few months ago, I sat on a mini that had 7" of rear suspension. My 250 lbs couldn't even compress its rear suspension 4".

With or without Reverse? For trail riding, I'd recommend Reverse. Good to have when one needs to do a 3-point turn in the middle of a skinny trail to turn around. Most racers don't want reverse gear. More stuff to make a mini heavy and more stuff to go wrong - while racing. Some brands of minis offer Reverse as optional. It's worth asking.

Manual or auto tranny. Some love the "auto tranny" of the CVT system. Others like the "bull low" gear on the semi-auto tranny.

If soft ground is the young riders passion, then get a mini with wide back tires. Thus, saving you the cost of upgrading the rims and/or rubber at a later time. Wide tires allow the mini to ride on top of the soft sand and mud.

If trail riding, I'd recommend installing a skid plate. It stops stuff from flying upwards to the underside of the engine and if one drives over something that too high (like a sharp rock to cut-off tree stump), the mini "slides" over it - instead of digging and the driver goes ramming into the front handle bars. Most brand dealers don't sell skid plates with their mini. If you need more info in this area, let us know. We'll post the possible parts dealer info in a different thread.

If trail riding in a bush and there's a risk of one's hands will get nailed by tree twigs, install handle grip protectors. Many parts dealers on this forum sell handle bar protectors. If you need more info in this area, let us know. We'll post the possible parts dealer info in a different thread.


As stated above, go with a 4 stroke if water, mud is the young riders passion. Otherwise, a 2 stroke will work just fine - over the long run.


Hope these other checklist items help as well....

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my two cents, forget about the kazuma 50cc for the 6 year old , instead li'd look at the sunl 70-90cc, these have a automatic transmission ,front suspension, cost about the same as the kazuma meercat 50cc. i own both the kazuma and the sunl for our grandkids, the kazuma seems to fit the 4-6 year olds better but the transmission sucks ,the kids have a hard time shifting, its hard for them to shift from high gear to a lower gear with their feet,they normally have to stop and use their hands. the sunl's are a little bit bigger which seems to fit the 6-10 year olds better also uses a automatic transmission, much better suited i think for this age group.

 

Thanks everyone for all your Help .

 

 

i would get the lil one a suzuki lt 80 you can slow it down to a crawl and you can build it up as she learns. as for yourself get a blaster ....lots of parts around ,easy to work on and way more dependable than some china piece of ....