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Old 05-19-2006, 01:52 PM
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the starter doesn't work hardly anymore the rear suspension has lost a bolt and a few other problem. are they all this junky or just my two. one the key i have to turn off and on many times till the horn honks and it barly does and then i can kick start it but the starter will barly turn. and when it does turn it sounds like dry screechy metal.

and are the rear ends suppose to sit to one side a little because both of mine do.
 
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Old 05-19-2006, 03:54 PM
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Hello, I too have a Predator 50. I have also lost a back end bolt. Luckily, I found it in the yard. Other than that, I haven't had any problems with it. Your rear end may be sitting funny because of that bolt. You should be able to fix the crooked back end by loosening the bolts (used to tighten the chain) and straighten the back end out, then re-tighten (or, another bolt may be missing.) When I first lost the bolt, I didn't realize that I had. I just noticed the crooked back end. Once I discovered I was missing the bolt, I realized that was why the back end was crooked. Once I found (and replaced) the bolt, the back end was straight again.


As far as your starter sounding funny, mine did that. I replaced the spark plug and now it works fine. If that doesn't help, check your battery. I left ours in the machine all winter, and it went bad. I hope it corrects your problem. As for the horn??? Can't answer that one. In general, I really think it is a great little quad.
 
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Old 05-19-2006, 06:27 PM
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As far as your starter sounding funny, mine did that. I replaced the spark plug and now it works fine.







your spark plug made the starter sound funny?
 
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Old 05-19-2006, 11:15 PM
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When replacing bolts or nuts, use "lock tight" or "thread lock" on them. In my old days, I used to dip the threads of the bolt in a can paint, then tighten it down. I know, poor man's thread lock. LOL!!!! Seriously..... Do use lock tight / thread lock and if missing and you feel its needed, also use a lock washer (the multi edge type) for extra grip. For bolts or nuts that vibrate out, this works for me...

Hope this suggestion helps as well....

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Old 05-20-2006, 09:44 AM
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your spark plug made the starter sound funny?
Yes, the spark plug change corrected the problem of the funny noise. The starter was working fine, the funny sound had something to do with the way the plug was firing.

 
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Old 05-22-2006, 12:13 PM
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thanks guys. i think i found a few places that sell new swing arms for these things. on was like +4 so does that mean its 4 inches longer or makes the ride 4" higher? and does anyone sell sprokets for these so i could lower the gearing a little to put a little bigger tire on it? the places we ride get a little ruff sometimes with rocks and stuff and it would be nice to have a little more clearance. thanks
 
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Old 05-22-2006, 01:09 PM
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A +4" Swing Arm means the Swing Arm is 4" longer. If you go with a longer Swing Arm, you'll need a much stronger shock. Actually, you'll need a much stronger spring on the shock. Going 4" longer will NOT give it 4" more ground height. It will probably only give it 1/2" (maybe 1") more ground height. Do keep in mind that longer the Swing Arm is, the less chance of doing a wheelie. Which is a great thing. But in doing so, you'll get much less traction on the flat ground. If one is going around a fast corner, the rear might suddenly slip out. re: fish tail. For average trail riding, some go with 1" longer Swing Arm. If hills, then 2" is a good length. Going more then 2" is for racers who know how to better control their mini - compared to the general trail rider. Not too sure if I'd go 4" longer.

For sprockets, you may want to contact http://www.rebelgears.com/pages/787897/index.htm

Or, contact some of the mini specialists on this forum. Bill Holt at WRH Racing had the right custom size sprocket for my son's mini.


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turbo296, were you able to correct the problems of the crooked back end and the screeching starter noise?
 
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Old 05-24-2006, 01:48 AM
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i've tried striaghting the rear but it broke the tensioner. i'm refering to the bolt on the back the if you tighten it it pulls the axle back. i tried leaving one side tight and the other loose and adjust the tensioner bolt and it snapped. so not so much lol. i haven't had time to mess with it lately. last time we went riding my whole family was covered in mud from head to toe (everyone but me lol) i spent all weekend taking my truck apart and cleaning the interior it was really dirty lol. but i hope to get around to it this weekend. we haven't ever replaced the spark plugs and we've had them for about a year now. so it may just help. but when you kick start it i fires right up first crank. it does have to idle a few minutes before it will run good enough to ride but after its warm it runs good. i really need a intake that sits up a little hight on the quad there is a few puddle they can't just go around and have to go through and the intake on them sits very low. is there a place to get a higher intake set up. i thought i found one but i can't find it anymore. thanks everybody for the help
 
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A +4" Swing Arm means the Swing Arm is 4" longer. If you go with a longer Swing Arm, you'll need a much stronger shock. Actually, you'll need a much stronger spring on the shock. Going 4" longer will NOT give it 4" more ground height. It will probably only give it 1/2" (maybe 1") more ground height. Do keep in mind that longer the Swing Arm is, the less chance of doing a wheelie. Which is a great thing. But in doing so, you'll get much less traction on the flat ground. If one is going around a fast corner, the rear might suddenly slip out. re: fish tail. For average trail riding, some go with 1" longer Swing Arm. If hills, then 2" is a good length. Going more then 2" is for racers who know how to better control their mini - compared to the general trail rider. Not too sure if I'd go 4" longer.

For sprockets, you may want to contact http://www.rebelgears.com/pages/787897/index.htm

Or, contact some of the mini specialists on this forum. Bill Holt at WRH Racing had the right custom size sprocket for my son's mini.


Hope this helps....

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thanks i just learned something lol. i've been to the wrh site i got it saved. are you running any bigger tire or stock size?
 
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