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Old Sep 30, 2007 | 01:35 PM
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Newbie to forum, needs help. I have purchased a chinese atv knowing full well there would be problems, but the 600.00 dollar price tag was to hard to ignore. The bike is a 200cc Giovanni with a Zongshen CG200-A engine. What has taken place is that it will not start, the starter turns over but not the engine. I have purchased a new solenoid, made sure my battery is charged and checked my starter directly to a battery (seems Good). The bike might have 15 hours on it. I have come to the conclusion it is within the engine. I have pulled the side cover off to reveal what I beleive to be the fly wheel and the starter ring behind it, now I am lost, the starter ring moves freely which makes sense, but I do not know how it would engage when the starter is engaged or even how to check it. I have contacted where I purchased the bike and they are willing to send me the parts I need, but what do I need I can not tell what is broken. Is the starter ring clutched somehow, is it centrifical force from the starter that engages the starter ring? Needless to say I have looked for some kind of manual for zongshen but no luck. You would think they would have something on a site somewhere. Any help or suggestions would be really nice.
 
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Old Sep 30, 2007 | 04:51 PM
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My sons 110cc ATv is doing the same thing. He put his in the mud and now it wont start. The starter moves the chain but wont engage the flywheel. If i find out why ill let you know.
 
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Old Sep 30, 2007 | 07:20 PM
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I have not been into this type of starter, but I believe that the starter drive ( the gear on the starter) is spun into the ring gear on the motor. There are spiral grooves that are milled into the starter shaft so that when the starter starts to spin the starter drive will slide out along the grooves to engage the ring gear. These grooves have to be clean and lubed well or the starter drive will not "fly out" to engage the ring gear. Might take a look there and make sure the shaft is clean. You can lube the shaft with white lithum grease as to not attract dirt and dust.

Hope this helps.
George.
 
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Old Oct 1, 2007 | 08:11 PM
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I got mine fixed you may whant to read the thread if your starter chain is spinning but not engaging the flywheel.

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Old Oct 2, 2007 | 07:36 AM
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Although I do not have a chain inside I am going to take the flywheel off and take a look for dirt and possible something spun off. Thks guys I'll let you know.
 
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Old Oct 14, 2007 | 10:10 AM
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It starts. I pulled the flywheel off, mounted behind the flywheel was what I beleive to be a starter clutch. I removed it, cleaned and lube it, reassembled and it starts. It wasn't dirty at all but I think the lube must have done it. The bike is only a couple months old, maybe it dried up coming from China? As for all the things written on this forum about pulling a flywheel, go buy a puller, a three arm one if you can affort it.
 
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Old Oct 14, 2007 | 10:54 PM
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If anyone needs a puller go to your local auto zone and all you have to do is put a safty deposit down and you get it back when you return the puller.
 
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Old Oct 15, 2007 | 01:04 PM
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why don't you spend the $10 and buy the correct flywheel puller? you see the threads on the flywheel where the flywheel nut is, this is where the flywheel puller threads in at, any m/c shop should have this puller at a cost around the $10 mark,
 
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