mn atv wetland $fines and siezure.
#1
mn atv wetland $fines and siezure.
wanted to give all mn atv drivers a heads up on this if you didn't know yet.......................
More teeth in penalties for ATVers who trash wetlands
More teeth in penalties for ATVers who trash wetlands
#2
That newspaper article had generated 54 comments when I checked. It looks like ATV'ers had the more interesting responses. I can't say I disagree with trying to protect wetlands by keeping ATV's from tearing them up. I caught an ATV'er who had gotten stuck on my land and was making a mess trying to get out of the mudhole he had created. It turned out he was a county forestry employee taking a short cut across my land. He would probably have had me arrested if he had caught me tearing up public land like that. I called the sheriff, but didn't press charges. I probably should have.
#3
Overall, I like the idea of this law. The only problem I have is what they are going to define as a "wetland". Last summer, I was stopped and ticketed by an Aitkin County Sheriff's deputy for "riding on the roadway" when I had gone up on the shoulder to avoid part of the ditch that was filled with about 3 feet of water. I had some mud on my machine so he accused me of "riding in the wetlands", which I hadn't been doing at all. He then informed me that it was just fine for me to ride through the ditch full of water because it was NOT a wetland. So, I got a ticket for NOT tearing up the land.
#4
Last summer, I was stopped and ticketed by an Aitkin County Sheriff's deputy for "riding on the roadway" when I had gone up on the shoulder to avoid part of the ditch that was filled with about 3 feet of water. I had some mud on my machine so he accused me of "riding in the wetlands", which I hadn't been doing at all.
#5
"A few hundred dollars out of your pocket isn't a big deal, but if you have got a $6,000 or $,7000 ATV, it is very much like a drunk driver losing their car," Konrad said. "And we know for sure they will be out of business at least until they get another ATV."
So,,,, they're equating wetland riding with dui? What is the big deal about riding in the wetlands????
I have a little swampy area in the back that I used to ride in just for the purpose of stirring the water and keeping it from smelling like a sewer. Sure, it looked a little muddy right after I rode thru it, but in a day or so it was right back to the way it was. So, what's MN's problem?
So,,,, they're equating wetland riding with dui? What is the big deal about riding in the wetlands????
I have a little swampy area in the back that I used to ride in just for the purpose of stirring the water and keeping it from smelling like a sewer. Sure, it looked a little muddy right after I rode thru it, but in a day or so it was right back to the way it was. So, what's MN's problem?
#6
"A few hundred dollars out of your pocket isn't a big deal, but if you have got a $6,000 or $,7000 ATV, it is very much like a drunk driver losing their car," Konrad said. "And we know for sure they will be out of business at least until they get another ATV."
So,,,, they're equating wetland riding with dui? What is the big deal about riding in the wetlands????
I have a little swampy area in the back that I used to ride in just for the purpose of stirring the water and keeping it from smelling like a sewer. Sure, it looked a little muddy right after I rode thru it, but in a day or so it was right back to the way it was. So, what's MN's problem?
So,,,, they're equating wetland riding with dui? What is the big deal about riding in the wetlands????
I have a little swampy area in the back that I used to ride in just for the purpose of stirring the water and keeping it from smelling like a sewer. Sure, it looked a little muddy right after I rode thru it, but in a day or so it was right back to the way it was. So, what's MN's problem?
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#8
And furthermore, there's no way blazing a trail thru a bog is any way similar to dui. At least demonstrate to me that there is some long-term damage to the environment by riding in a bog. If anything, the quads are stirring the water, halting stagnation, and killing mosquittos (hence slowing west nile, etc). All I can see are favorable effects.
#9
As far as your own property: You need to look on the "NWI" National Wetland Inventory map and overlay your property boundaries. If you have a NWI wetland on your land, it's completely off limits. There are even setbacks something like 50' or 100' from the edge. Penalties are stiff.
We had an NWI listed wetland on our farm in Vermont. It was really just an old cow watering hole (man-made), but it got on the list from satellite imagery. It took me a year and about $4,000 in legal and engineering fees to have it removed. Was not an easy process.....Even though it's man-made, doesn't guarantee it will be removed. Depends on what species have taken to it and for how long, etc.
#10
I don't know.... Seems like a lot of frettin over nothing to me. Just give me one point. Something.... Anything... Any reason whatsoever.... Even a half-hearted one. I'm totally lost and somewhat flabbergasted.
Now, I can see setting aside a few wetlands here n there to protect, but my god, why 100% of them? Why a 100% no tolerance law?
Now, I can see setting aside a few wetlands here n there to protect, but my god, why 100% of them? Why a 100% no tolerance law?