Trail widths
#91
https://youtu.be/_IswdVGYC-w
The width of the trail is not always an issue here - its "where" the trail is.
Most of them go thru "roadless" area's of the forest where you can't have a road but you can have a trail and trails are 50" wide or less.
Here's another new barrier and just how well they are installed.
The width of the trail is not always an issue here - its "where" the trail is.
Most of them go thru "roadless" area's of the forest where you can't have a road but you can have a trail and trails are 50" wide or less.
Here's another new barrier and just how well they are installed.
#92
Due to my location and internet I seldom do a video more then one minute long
because they take forever to download.
This is coming from the opposite direction just prior to the gate.
#95
yeah, like I said,before, As I get older, I don't ride as much as I used to. And care even less. The machines have gotten too big, too expensive, too fast, are hurting too many kids, and people refuse to give a crap about "Rules". In a few years, you are going to see the "Sport" be relegated to private pay to ride parks, as public lands, and shrinking budgets choke us all. Right now, I use my Utility model to get around the homestead. That is about it. I don't drive 8 hours to ride for 3 or 4 and drive back any more. Kind of given in to the aches and pains of open heart Bypass surgery, the pain from all the metal pins and plates in my ankle and knee, and the arthritis in my thumbs from holding on and working the throttle. The mind wants to, but the body screams no.
#96
Wondered about that. Wouldn't be surprised to see one out there someday.
t's scary coming around a tight corner here in New England with all the undergrowth, so you can't see what's coming. I didn't enjoy accidentally riding into Gorham, NH during Camp RZR. I don't know how many times I almost ended up in a ditch because the wider machines took up so much of the trail.
t's scary coming around a tight corner here in New England with all the undergrowth, so you can't see what's coming. I didn't enjoy accidentally riding into Gorham, NH during Camp RZR. I don't know how many times I almost ended up in a ditch because the wider machines took up so much of the trail.
#97
I have read that next year a new park is opening pretty close to me here in Southern Illinois. We already have 2 in the same area, Little Egypt and Williams Hill Pass. A lot of the area used to be coal mines and more of it is being converted into offroad parks. I don't think its going to be huge, but it will be worth visiting. I wish the bike rail trail in that area had been for atvs but its just for bikes and pedestrians. Its about 50 miles, that would have been quite a nice length atv rail trail. I honestly don't travel that far to ride very often either. I haven't left the state to ride in 10 years. There is a park in Missouri about an hour west of St Louis, about 2 hours or a little more from me called St Joes State Park. I may go there sometime this year. That's about as far as I like to go. May go to Land Between the Lakes in Kentucky again, that's about 200 miles from me. Honestly I just don't want to go that far, especially alone.
#98
Disclaimer: This is my personal opinion and not meant to start an argument, I'm just trying to understand why folks always have to have it their way. I know this has not been responded to for a while but I'll add my 2cents and am sure it will probably touch some nerves.
I for one am extremely glad our trails are limited here. We have the Forest Service regulating trail width and what can be used on them. They have learned that if they don't regulate, anyone with a 4 wheel drive vehicle of any kind will try to take that piece of equipment onto any trail that is out there, going as far as they can possibly go, tearing it to shreds and causing all sorts of erosion and usage issues making it nearly impossible for trail friendly ATV's to use. We have over 27,000,000 acres of public lands here including BLM land, out of all of the road and trail access in this state, motorcycles have it the best, They not only have access to all of the roads but also all of the 50" or less trails, plus they have hundreds if not thousands of miles dedicated to single track use as well. As a 50" or less rider I feel it a privilege to ride all of the trails that are designated for my machines. When I come to an area that is designated single track only, I don't make my way around the barrier (if there is one) to try to ride a trail that may or may not allow safe passage for my machines going as far as I can ripping it apart to try to get through. I have plenty of areas to ride that are friendly to the width of my machine. I respect the rules the forest service has set up. If I wanted to ride the single tracks I would go get a motorcycle to do it. I guess I don't understand why rules always have to be changed to accommodate the small voice of those that don't want to follow them. We had thought about a SXS when we were first looking to start getting out on the trails, I found that by getting something that was over 50" would really limit the area we were allowed have access to. I consciously made the choice to get the machine(s) we needed to accommodate our desired riding area. I didn't expect the Forest Service to change all of their trails to meet the specifications of my machine. I understand that we have a lot of area to ride, but the manufacturers certainly seem to trying to comply to the regulations that some states have implemented. Polaris, Arctic Cat, and Can Am are all making 50" SXS's. And as I have checked they seem to be substantially less money than the larger machines. My view overall is: If you have the larger machines drive them in the areas designated otherwise get the narrower machine and enjoy what the rest of us do on the 50" or less trails.
It reminds me of all of the people that are moving to Montana because they can't stand it where they moved from. They come here because of the beauty, wide open spaces, sparse population, or for whatever reason, buy their acreage whether it is a nice spread or a 20 acre parcel out on a gravel road somewhere. Then the first thing they do is put up their no trespassing/hunting sign, force all of the area around them into a weapons restricted area, then start a petition to get the road paved to their house because they don't want to get their Hummer, Mercedes, or Audi dirty on the gravel road and expect everyone that lives around them to make a change and foot the bill to pave the road. Plus they get a 35 mph speed limit posted to boot or get the speed limit reduced on a road that has had a 60 mph speed limit on it for 50 years. If they don't like the way it is, why did they move here and start the process of making it like where they came from? Follow the guidelines in place, deal with the area you live, or leave. Pretty simple concept to me. Sorry to be on a soap box but hard to see things change when you've lived there for 55 years, and I have seen a lot of areas I have had access to get totally closed down because of the actions of a few ruining it for everyone else. If folks follow the rules then everyone benefits. Like I said, My 2 cents. Call me
I for one am extremely glad our trails are limited here. We have the Forest Service regulating trail width and what can be used on them. They have learned that if they don't regulate, anyone with a 4 wheel drive vehicle of any kind will try to take that piece of equipment onto any trail that is out there, going as far as they can possibly go, tearing it to shreds and causing all sorts of erosion and usage issues making it nearly impossible for trail friendly ATV's to use. We have over 27,000,000 acres of public lands here including BLM land, out of all of the road and trail access in this state, motorcycles have it the best, They not only have access to all of the roads but also all of the 50" or less trails, plus they have hundreds if not thousands of miles dedicated to single track use as well. As a 50" or less rider I feel it a privilege to ride all of the trails that are designated for my machines. When I come to an area that is designated single track only, I don't make my way around the barrier (if there is one) to try to ride a trail that may or may not allow safe passage for my machines going as far as I can ripping it apart to try to get through. I have plenty of areas to ride that are friendly to the width of my machine. I respect the rules the forest service has set up. If I wanted to ride the single tracks I would go get a motorcycle to do it. I guess I don't understand why rules always have to be changed to accommodate the small voice of those that don't want to follow them. We had thought about a SXS when we were first looking to start getting out on the trails, I found that by getting something that was over 50" would really limit the area we were allowed have access to. I consciously made the choice to get the machine(s) we needed to accommodate our desired riding area. I didn't expect the Forest Service to change all of their trails to meet the specifications of my machine. I understand that we have a lot of area to ride, but the manufacturers certainly seem to trying to comply to the regulations that some states have implemented. Polaris, Arctic Cat, and Can Am are all making 50" SXS's. And as I have checked they seem to be substantially less money than the larger machines. My view overall is: If you have the larger machines drive them in the areas designated otherwise get the narrower machine and enjoy what the rest of us do on the 50" or less trails.
It reminds me of all of the people that are moving to Montana because they can't stand it where they moved from. They come here because of the beauty, wide open spaces, sparse population, or for whatever reason, buy their acreage whether it is a nice spread or a 20 acre parcel out on a gravel road somewhere. Then the first thing they do is put up their no trespassing/hunting sign, force all of the area around them into a weapons restricted area, then start a petition to get the road paved to their house because they don't want to get their Hummer, Mercedes, or Audi dirty on the gravel road and expect everyone that lives around them to make a change and foot the bill to pave the road. Plus they get a 35 mph speed limit posted to boot or get the speed limit reduced on a road that has had a 60 mph speed limit on it for 50 years. If they don't like the way it is, why did they move here and start the process of making it like where they came from? Follow the guidelines in place, deal with the area you live, or leave. Pretty simple concept to me. Sorry to be on a soap box but hard to see things change when you've lived there for 55 years, and I have seen a lot of areas I have had access to get totally closed down because of the actions of a few ruining it for everyone else. If folks follow the rules then everyone benefits. Like I said, My 2 cents. Call me
#99
There was someone who moved in next to The Mounds ORV Park then complained about the noise from people who were riding there. Vehicles there must not exceed Michigan’s sound level standards, and sound checks can be performed by the staff. But it gets kind of noisy sometimes. Waaaaahhh! Some other idiots moved in by the outdoor shooting ranges at Williams Gun Sight Company then tried to get the range closed down because they didn't want people shooting guns there. Waaaaahhh! And 65" wide UTVs won't fit down 50" maximum width trails. Waaaaahhh! Quit being such a bunch of whiny little bSpam wordSpam word Spam wordSpam word Spam wordSpam word Spam wordSpam words and deal with it.
#100
Yep...and all this is going to get even worse when all these illegal immigrants start or continue to come into this country. People are always trying to change what other people have! Getting real tired of the few making trouble for the many.






