Oh and I also noticed that atvdep's grammar seems to be right on que. Maybe if he is not busy you might be able to pay him for some lessons. We cannot tell where your quotes end and your typing begins.

 

its to bad our fun on this forum site has ended,I will see and here from you on one of the other sites. see ya in michigan some where[img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-wink.gif[/img]

 

My gosh, fatts............ 3 posts IN A ROW; spread over ONE AND A HALF HOURS?![img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-happy.gif[/img]

As it seems my job is to set the record straight on this thread............let's sit down and 're-read' one of the things that seems to be bothering you about my comments:


and from Sourmash on another forum:
Originally posted by Sourmash:
......."STRAP ON A SET big boy! Your going to need them!!! Count on that.......
CAn't till I read your going to ride cloce to here, we'll talk then punk!!!!!"


And fatt's comment regarding what 'Sourmash' (I identified him 'twice') actually said to 'me':

........"And another thing I seen(sic) that you stated something to yetti like"when I see that your(sic) riding in my area, then we will talk punk". I would strongly recommend that someone of your age should be alittle more careful on how you choose your wording...........


Uhhhhhhhh, fatts, you might want to be a little more careful on how you choose your wording towards 'Sourmash'..............................lol!

Oh, and by the way, the next time you ask the president of MATVA how to deal with me or why I got 'banned' from their site...............................ask him why the forum administrator told me at the time I got kicked off, that 'he' didn't have anything to do with it; the President did!

Maybe you can then understand that it was not 'behavior' that was being argued; but how uncomfortable the questions were getting in relation to what club policy actually was in relation to other clubs and even towards the members themselves(ie. TQ Rich). Bottom line, 'somebody' isn't telling the truth........................(and, unfortunately, I have a pretty good idea who that is).

You know, you'd think that 'somebody' would get the word out to NOT TALK about anything relevant to the state of atving, club legislative matters or the 'secret' S.E. MI. private riding area (as has been the case since I left the site).................every time this is done; there's a chance that someone 'else' might start asking these 'irrelevant' questions! For example: why were there MATVA members claiming that certain trails were too dangerous for even their very own kids to handle (handlebars being jabbed in their guts; issue completely ignored), just before a lawsuit gets filed over trail maintenance?(you can see why certain subjects can get even 'more' uncomfortable to talk about in hindsight!) [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-wink.gif[/img]

Happy Trails!

 

the best thing to do is just ignore him.... he will never shut up....and as for seeing him on the trials????
looks like he dosen't ride much.... always p i s s i n g and moaning about matva and us detroit people....
quit writing your remarks to him... god give it up..... john, really, why dont you just start your own little club and call it the "BLACKBALLS" for people like you... yeah, i just checked, my ***** are black too... but then again, its from riding my quad and b i t c h i n g all day.......


PROUD MEMBER OF MATVA TIM

 

Ohhhhhhh, c'mon now Tim!

If you're going to attack me personally; at least attack the actual comments I've made that you don't agree with!

Everybody has gotten more than a little upset at 'me'; but don't seem to have a 'thing' to say about the facts I've presented regarding the present state of our system!

Wouldn't people view your club as more than a bunch of guys hoping that your 'metro' riding area gets built; if you 'challenged' those that brought forth the facts that supported that notion?(instead of simply 'attacking' them like grade-schoolers with obscure body part references?).

By the way, where's that 'mission statement' you guys used to have on your website that listed 'building' this area as your club's top priority? (that really didn't set too well with the rest of us poor 'rural' folk, did it?!) [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-wink.gif[/img]

As I once heard somebody say when the idea of 'preferred' members with 'preferrential benefits' was vigorously shot down in a parking lot 'club meeting'.........."Hey, I had to tell 'em something"!

John

 

LMFAO, LMFAO, wow way too funny. Blackballs: After careful consideration I have came to the conclusion that you might have a chronic anxiety disorder and I would strongly recommend that you speak to someone about it. Although I am finding humor in your responses I still care about your well being. I just wanted to say that I can always count on logging in to see your responses for a good laugh. Who knows one day I might even like you, though I will never understand your "GHOST VIEWS" that none of us have heard you talk about. Trust I know there are support groups out there somewhere for you to apply your true feelings. I also would recommend that someone with your state of mind might not want to ride recreational vehicles for others and your own safety. Good luck Blackballs and you have really brought me amusement and joy for years to come. Take care!!!!

 

fatts,

Haven't you been listening to these guys? They are trying to tell you that if you KEEP on replying to these posts; I will 'continue' to talk about trail issues here in our state that aren't 'allowed' to be discussed any longer on their very own site!(check the site to see when was the last time anybody asked a 'what are we doing in Lansing' question............. or if they 'did; how they were treated).

You see, fatts, if you join in with your neighbors from Detroit; they are looking at getting you GRADERS to 'smooth out' all those nasty little bumps that you have to deal with on the trails closest to 'suburbia' that they maintain.

Us poor, uneducated, country folk out here just don't know enough to not question these things; so we kinda gotta 'live' with 'our' trails; as they are just too narrow to drag a grader down!(let alone be safe for our kids). Now, removing even 'some' of our trees is going to cost a 'bunch' of money. And that money, we've been told, is better off used to make sure you city folk don't have a bumpy ride when Momma wants to come along for the day or people that sell machines in the city (we've run into plenty of them) need an 'acceptable' and relatively close place for their customers to use what they buy! Hey, you can't make money if your customers don't like the closest trails; and how many MORE customers would you have, if you built something even closer than the several hours it takes to get there now!

Like I say, we're just mainly working folk out here beyond the suburbs and probably just don't 'appreciate' why these city people don't have the 'time' to listen what we have to say over here and up in the Upper Peninsula. We've been told that we shouldn't just stand up at these orv board meetings and speak our peace because our 'representative' is there to do it for us and keep the meeting moving along(which makes sense)........................problem is, when we talk to these same people 'off' the record and see if our message is getting through?

Well, 'you know'....................................

Hey, keep on replying back and we'll talk about training quads that aren't availiable over here(as promised) or maybe extra fees charged for 'parents' to sit in on training classes!

We promise a 'different' subject for every post to anyone who wants to keep this going.......................

John

p.s.: for the club's sake; I'd end it 'here'.

 

Fellows this blackball is a nut for sure. I was the one that originally made the ride comment. He run his mickymouse mouth to me on another board and I stated that I would like to meet him and discuss the subject in person. WOW he is making the statement that I threatened him. Well read the post he copied and posted here. Not a threat at all. Just my desire to meet him out in the middle of the trails to discuss the subject. Ya'll know what I mean, no computer screen to hide behind!
Another thing that is very funny, where he harasses me he is backing the pay to play riding areas. Knocking my post about riding the free areas in West Virginia where I ride. Actually he is (drawing air)- up to the business owners. Maybe they will ride with him up in the mountains, where evil lurcks on everyhill. Every hill is an accident and lawsuit wating to happen!
It's amazimg how many sites where his many handles have stirred up arguments on safety subjects. What is his hidden ajenda? CAn he be so argumentative in real life? If he is, God Bless Him! He's going to need his help one of these days!
I will appologize for and spelling or gramer erors in MY post, I am a plain ole country -hillbilly. But actually a very good judge of personalitys! He ain't got one in my opnion!

 

thankyou Blackballed,it a good thing to hear you cherful once again, I did think you would ever get back on topic, theres something to be said for the people that are willing to listen at meetings, and we all have to dillagent about writing and calling, the fact is blackballed is right, there are those among the atv community that only serve their own purposes, and thats why I pay attension to what ever anybody has to say(crack pot or not) the only way to over come people with agendas is to be at the meeting and speak for yourself.