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I'd like to Salute the State of Arizona.

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Old 05-05-2010, 11:41 PM
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When the federal government doesn't uphold the law, it's left up to the states.
 
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Old 05-06-2010, 07:21 AM
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Still having to struggle and work hard, and learn a new language and deal with bigotry and try to raise your family with education as the first and foremost value.

Now the drug cartels present a whole different picture. These are murderous violent animals. Like all organized crime. How about tracking the assets on this side of the border and seizing them? We did it to likely terrrorist supporters, why not to drug and human traffickers? It wasn't the FBI that brought down Capone, it was the IRS. Go get 'em pencil pushers!
I agree that it is difficult, but communities often can't afford doing what California, for instance, does giving educations to illegal immigrants. Our ancestors came here, had to deal with the same issues, and made something of themselves. They did it legally. A controlled immigration is manageable. I'm personally not bigoted. I don't care what color or nationality someone is. I joke that I am color blind. The mix we have here is what makes this country great. My neighbor across the street lives in a house twice the size of mine. He and his wife and daughter came from China. He established a Chinese food manufacturing company that pre-makes food for restaurants and such. I'm psyched for the guy. Imagine leaving an oppressive government, starting with little, making it big, and living a good life! That's what it's all about and I understand why people stream over the borders trying for the same thing. It's just got to be controlled.

I think the Border Patrol should get anything they need to deal with the thugs from the drug cartels. They should have Apache helicopters and Abrams tanks if they need them on call. If they come at you with machine guns, you go after them with armored vehicles. Whatever it takes. Arizona did this because the problem is out of hand and getting worse. They have a right to protect their citizens if the federal government isn't stepping up to the plate.
 
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HATS OFF TO CHARLIE DANIELS....AT LEAST HE HAS THE COURAGE TO SPEAK HIS MIND!!!

I don't know how everybody else feels about it, but to me I think Hispanic people in this country, legally or illegally, made a huge public relations mistake with their recent demonstrations.

I don't blame anybody in the world for wanting to come to the United States of America , as it is a truly wonderful place.

But when the first thing you do when you set foot on American soil is illegal it is flat out wrong and I don't care how many lala land left heads come out of the woodwork and start trying to give me sensitivity lessons.

I don't need sensitivity lessons, in fact I don't have anything against Mexicans! I just have something against criminals and anybody who comes into this country illegally is a criminal and if you don't believe it try coming into America from a foreign country without a passport and see how far you get.



What disturbs me about the demonstrations is that it's tanta-mount to saying, "I am going to come into your country even if it means breaking your laws and there's nothing you can do about it."

It's an "in your face" action and speaking just for me, I don't like it one little bit and if there were a half dozen pairs of gonads in Washington bigger than English peas it wouldn't be happening.

Where are you, you bunch of lily livered, pantywaist, forked tongued, sorry excuses for defenders of The Constitution? Have you been drinking the water out of the Potomac again?

And even if you pass a bill on immigration it will probably be so pork laden and watered down that it won't mean anything anyway Besides, what good is another law going to do when you won't enforce the ones on the books now?

And what ever happened to the polls, guys? I thought you folks were the quintessential finger wetters. Well you sure ain't paying any attention to the polls this time because somewhere around eighty percent of Americans want some thing done about this mess, and mess it is and getting bigger everyday.

This is no longer a problem, it is a dilemma and headed for being a tragedy. Do you honestly think that what happened in France with the Muslims can't happen here when the businesses who hire these people finally run out of jobs and a few million disillusioned Hispanics take to the streets?

If you, Mr. President, Congressmen and Senators, knuckle under on this and refuse to do something meaningful it means that you care nothing for the kind of country your children and grand-children will inherit. But I guess that doesn't matter as long as you get re-elected.



Shame on you.



One of the big problems in America today is that if you have the nerve to say anything derogatory about any group of people (except Christians) you are going to be screamed at by the media and called a racist, a bigot and anything else they can think of to call you

Well I've been pounded by the media before and I'm still rockin' and rollin' and when it comes to speaking the truth I fear not.



And the truth is that the gutless, gonadless, milksop politicians are just about to sell out the United States of America because they don't have the intestinal fortitude to stand up to face reality.

And reality is that we would never allow any other group of people to have 12 million illegal in this country and turn around and say, "Oh it's ok, ya'll can stay here if you'll just allow us to slap your wrist."

And I know that some of you who read this column are saying "Well what's wrong with that?"



I'll tell you what's wrong with it. These people could be from Mars as far as we know. We don't know who they are, where they are or what they're up to and the way the Congress is going we're not going to.

Does this make sense? Labor force you say? We already subsidize corporate agriculture as it is, must we subsidize their labor as well?



If these people were from Haiti would we be so fast to turn a blind eye to them or if they were from Somalia or Afghanistan ?



I think not.

All the media shows us are pictures of hard working Hispanics who have crossed the border just to try to better their life.



They don't show you pictures of the Feds rounding up members of MS 13, the violent gang who came across the same way the decent folks did.



They don't tell you about the living conditions of the Mexican illegal some fat cat hired to pick his crop.

I want to make two predictions.

No. 1: This situation is going to grow and fester until it erupts in violence on our streets while the wimps in Washington drag their toes in the dirt and try to figure how many tons of political hay they can make to the acre.

No 2: Somebody is going to cross that border with some kind of weapon of mass destruction and set it off in a major American city after which there will be a backlash such as this country has never experienced and the Capitol building in Washington will probably tilt as Congressmen and Senators rush to the other side of the issue.


I don't know about you but I would love to see just one major politician stand up and say, "I don't care who I make mad and I don't care how many votes I lose, this is a desperate situation and I'm going to lead the fight to get it straightened out."
I don't blame anybody for wanting to come to America, but if you don't respect our immigration laws why should you respect any others?


And by the way, this is America and our flag has stars and stripes Please get that other one out of my face.


God Bless America

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Old 05-06-2010, 10:12 AM
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Couldn't have said it better.
 
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Old 05-06-2010, 03:18 PM
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Excellent!
 
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Old 05-06-2010, 07:33 PM
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Does this make sense? Labor force you say? We already subsidize corporate agriculture as it is, must we subsidize their labor as well?

This is exactly the NAFTA problem. It would be a huge first step if we acted on this and let the folks who DON'T want to come the US scrape out a living where they are. Many of these folks (not all by any means) would rather stay home with their families.

Do you honestly think that what happened in France with the Muslims can't happen here when the businesses who hire these people finally run out of jobs and a few million disillusioned Hispanics take to the streets?

This is nothing compared to a shocking stastistical reality. In as few as 2 to 3 decades France will likely become a muslim country. Don't believe me? Look at reproduction rates and immigration patterns. Just imagine, one of the 8 fully nuke arsenal equipped countries falling to what COULD be a toppling of democracy and the installation of clerical rule. Iran is a problem, France would be...

They don't show you pictures of the Feds rounding up members of MS 13, the violent gang who came across the same way the decent folks did.

Latin Kings too. I'm just not so confident we are attacking these problems with enough vigor. I agree Moose, but if it's Abrams and the like they MUST be the property of the police, doesn't matter, border guard, local, state. Should not EVER involve military. Posse Comitatus. Start ignoring that and you are on the road to a very, very bad end game.

Somebody is going to cross that border with some kind of weapon of mass destruction and set it off in a major American city after which there will be a backlash such as this country has never experienced and the Capitol building in Washington will probably tilt as Congressmen and Senators rush to the other side of the issue.

Is he really worried about migrant workers bringinig along a radiological weapon? They can't afford rice. And if you haven't noticed, rice is cheap. Illegal immigration and terrorism might be distantly (extremely) related, but come on. Our ports are not even secured. Heck, our small airports are so poorly regulated and inspected I don't think you could consider them secure. Worse yet, the Canadian border is HUGE and has recognized nations that span it that are making money on illegal smuggling as we speak. There are no Mexicans driving dirty bombs across the Sonoran desert in the back of their half rotted '91 F-150's. It IS a problem all right, just not one you can wrap together with illegal immigration from Mexico. Heck, most of the terrorists that have attacked us have been citizens! Some naturalized and some born here.

Sarcasm aside, sure, they would all run to one side. But they wouldn't actually DO ANYTHING! Just stampede over to one side. Been how many years and locks on cockpit doors are not reqiuired? C'mon.
 
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Old 05-07-2010, 08:16 AM
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Latin Kings too. I'm just not so confident we are attacking these problems with enough vigor. I agree Moose, but if it's Abrams and the like they MUST be the property of the police, doesn't matter, border guard, local, state. Should not EVER involve military. Posse Comitatus. Start ignoring that and you are on the road to a very, very bad end game.

I actually meant to put that in. Good catch.
 
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Old 05-15-2010, 10:51 PM
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Originally Posted by MooseHenden
Couldn't have said it better.
It's a SERIOUS problem. What the hell are we going to do about it. I live in Maine. I don't deal with Mexican gangs. That's one of the reasons I live here. It's some crazy **** and there doesn't look like a way to plug the dike....there is no dike. Realistic border patrol is going to cost big bucks.

Bring back the draft: All men go into the army after high school and spend two years protecting borders. That would be the cheapest and most effective way..... Everybody goes, including the Yale guys. None of this "I'm college bound" BS....No, you're going to the Mexican border for 24 months is where you're going. Give them some college help paying tuition when their tour is up.
 
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Old 05-16-2010, 12:49 AM
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I think one of the cheapest, fastest, easiest ways to help control Illegal immigration is to prosecute those that hire them with mandatory jail time. Start with a minimum 30 day sentence for EACH illegal hired and double or triple it for each additional conviction. With no jobs to come to they will have no reason to come here.





 
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Hey, Fun... Draft? Yale guys? That'll happen! That's geat. Dee is in the right direction. Stopping people from coming in voluntarily would work for a lot of illegal immigration. It will have no impact on gangs though. NAFTA is a big part of the problem. People seeking work are often coming because they have pretty much no better options than being screwed by the Coyotes, giving up everything they know and risking their lives. You would be shocked by the diversity of the men I have interviewed in muster zones. An engineer, a nurse, all the way to illiterate and one guy we couldn't communicate with at all because he didn't evenspeak Spanish. Was from the extreme Southwest and spoke some dead Aztec/Mayan language.
 


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