twenty:

I did look it up, and the economy started to slip long before 9-11. It started to slip during the election controversy. The whole fact that we had no president killed the economy and that's the truth. The dollar sank low because of all the uncertainty. No one can be blamed for that really, it was what it was.

I don't blame Bush for where the economy is right now, I just don't feel after reading Bush's plan to rebuild the economy that it will work in the short term, and lest we forget he only has 4 more year left if he wins. Under his plan there is not enough time to make a difference. Kerry's plan is more direct and will have a more significant impact sooner.

 

So do you think they get a free ride now? What about all the young people doing the same now? This entitlement thing just kills me. You think that somehow because you did these things the world/country owes you a living. I say B.S. You want to make it then get out there and make it. If you're not smart enough to save your money for the future then so beit. Take your punishment and suffer spend your golden years at walmart. Serving in wars and defending our country is a duty of every responsible american!!! If you not willing to so this the get the heck out!!!!! It isn't a form of entitlement!!!

If you don't like our health care system then go anywhere else and try theres!!!! I bet you'll be back in 6 months or less!!!

As far as taxes we wouldn't have to give so much if we wouldn't depend on the government to provide so much!!! Remeber the famous words of JFK "Ask not what this country can do for you, but ask what you can do for your country"!!!!!! If memory serves me correctly he was a democrat. What are the democrats saying now... We'll provide for you just vote for me!!!!

I say shrink the govenrment and its funding, Create a true flat tax system with no loop holes and no deductions and no welfare!!! Stop all the porkbarrel politics, and special interest groups, Representative for congress ought to have term limits of two terms. It should be a public responsibility not a carreer where you get to keep all the money from donations. Take away all the benefits they receive. The only thing they should get would be to get a leave of absence from their job.

As far as the presidential election is concerened. It's a sad choice of the lesser of two evils. Bush hasn't done too bad for the last four years. Atleast I know where he stands on issues. With Kerry who knows where he stands!!! He has done more flips then all the girls compbined at a gymnastics competition!!!

Corporations only responsibility are to its SHAREHOLDERS. If you don't like what they are doing then buy their shares and VOTE!!!!

 

ttaylor:

[[[[So do you think they get a free ride now? What about all the young people doing the same now? This entitlement thing just kills me. You think that somehow because you did these things the world/country owes you a living. I say B.S. You want to make it then get out there and make it. If you're not smart enough to save your money for the future then so beit. Take your punishment and suffer spend your golden years at walmart. Serving in wars and defending our country is a duty of every responsible american!!! If you not willing to so this the get the heck out!!!!! It isn't a form of entitlement!!!]]]]]

You got this all wrong. No one is saying they want a free ride, they just deserve what they are entitled to. Do you not pay into social security right now? Do you not pay insurance on your taxes? Take a long look at your federal deductions and learn where they are going.

[[[[[If you don't like our health care system then go anywhere else and try theres!!!! I bet you'll be back in 6 months or less!!!]]]]]

It's not the healthcare system that sucks, we have the best medical in the World, it's the cost of basic coverage and the cost of the drugs.

[[[[[As far as taxes we wouldn't have to give so much if we wouldn't depend on the government to provide so much!!! Remeber the famous words of JFK "Ask not what this country can do for you, but ask what you can do for your country"!!!!!! If memory serves me correctly he was a democrat. What are the democrats saying now... We'll provide for you just vote for me!!!!]]]]]

Missing the point here. No one is wanting a free ride, and those who do are wrong.

[[[[[I say shrink the govenrment and its funding, Create a true flat tax system with no loop holes and no deductions and no welfare!!! Stop all the porkbarrel politics, and special interest groups, Representative for congress ought to have term limits of two terms. It should be a public responsibility not a carreer where you get to keep all the money from donations. Take away all the benefits they receive. The only thing they should get would be to get a leave of absence from their job.]]]]]

Now you're making sense. A flat tax system might work if you cut the loop-holes and created a scale type mandate so large corporations could not defer to the lower bracket.

[[[[[As far as the presidential election is concerened. It's a sad choice of the lesser of two evils. Bush hasn't done too bad for the last four years. Atleast I know where he stands on issues. With Kerry who knows where he stands!!! He has done more flips then all the girls compbined at a gymnastics competition!!!]]]]]

I have done the research, I know exactly where Kerry stands on the issues, and this whole flip-flop thing has been blown out or proportion in all reality. During the building of his platform there was some uncertainty but that's to be expected. Bush himself said that he understands why Kerry made those statements about the Iraq effort. Bush has not exactly been a rock on policy himself especailly with Homeland Security, he's contradicted himself on several occasions and was on/off with his support of the FBI and CIA since the whole "new lies" evidence thing came down.

Corporations only responsibility are to its SHAREHOLDERS. If you don't like what they are doing then buy their shares and VOTE!!!!

 

As for the cost of health care you are correct...it is WAY out of control. When my wife left her job we were offered COBRA at about $900.00 a month for my wife, myself, and our two children...AMAZING!! I would like more info though because I'm not sure who to blame. I remember the costs were staggering when Clinton was in office too and I seem to remember health care reform was high on his agenda. In any case something definately needs to be done.

 

The costs are high for the people who PAY. They are covering for all the ones who DON'T.

 

You mean like my sister-in-law (I hate that she's that) who refuses to work and gets all her health care for free?[img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-mad.gif[/img]

 

just4kicks:

COBRA is a killer, my wife and I spent about the same as you per month for a while when she was between jobs.

Clinton did have a good plan but it never got through congress. Kerry has a good plan too, but I fear the same thing would happen. Bush has not really said what plan he has, he just seems to be holding the pattern on heathcare. Reagan had a great idea but it too never came to fruition. Kerry's plan is innovative but may be too much so to get through to even try it.

The real problem is the federal mandate that has given drug companies a monopoly on America. If the insurance companies were forced to pay for drugs from Canada people could save a lot of money because Pfizer, Wyeth and the others would be forced to lower their prices. They are raping us right now and it's not right. Drug companies and Insurance companies are the real problem and we need to regulate them somehow.

As far as I know niether candidate has a plan for that.

 

NSA1499

I do pay into SS but why? to pay for someone else to lay around and colllect a check? Will I get to see any funds returned to me? NO!! I say stop the withholdings stop making my employer match my withholdings. Let it run dry and then cut the embilical cord tell people to get to work!!! Lets get this straight.

The baby boomers are the ones running the country now and its them that is screwing their own generation over on the SS program. (Another wonderful thank you from the Democrats) What was the primary purpose the SS was instituted for? It was never meant to be a retirement!!! It was only there to help those who fell short on funds during hard times. It was only supposed to be a temporary fix to help people during the depression. It wasn't meant to be an entitlement program. As an american the only things we are entitled to is LIFE, LIBERTY, and THE PURSUIT OF HAPPINESS. What is SS for now? WELFARE!!!! and a retirement fund for the stupid!!!! (It all adds up to another lie from the good ole faithful lying democrats). Do we really want them messing with the healthcare system????

Wasn't it Teddy Rosevelt that said "It is better to pay a man to dig a hole and then fill it back in then to have him idle doing nothing" He was a Democrat too!!! Again, how come the Democratic party has changed their tune!!! Why do they want more control and bigger government? The reason is the bigger the government the less control the people have!!!! If this is true, then are they really for the people???? NO We have millionares running for president telling the poor people to vote for them and they will provide for us. Are we really that stupid to believe that a millionare is really going to watch out for our best interest??? OR is he going to do what is best for himself to keep and grow his wealth??? I thought we were past the "lord of the manner" era. It appears that, thats where we are headed. Again we don't need the govenrment hand in prevate market sector. It operates efficiently when left alone. If people can't afford to pay for drugs then they won't buy drugs. There will be an over supply of drugs and the price will drop. When it drops enough to where people can afford then they will buy drugs and balance out the supply. If the government steps in then all they are going to do is take more taxes from me to pay for some lazy jerks drugs. They will also suppliment the business for their loss on the sale of the drugs. This is a no win situation for all of us!!!

Voting for Kerry is like bending over for a good swift kick in the butt and say may I have another please!!!!

 

Bush > Kerry...


btw I do agree, Drug companies & Insurance Companies are a big problem.

 

Yes the cost of healthcare; It is expensive. People complain about how much they get withheld from their check. What most people don't realize is that the employer is picking up 60-100 of the costs. So when you get your cobra amount then you are picking up 100% plus sometimes a little more. How are the costs derived? Simple; size of group, health condition of group, past claims experience of group, and richness of benefits offered. They figure it takes 1000 life group before things start to normalize.

Let me give you an employers perspective...We don't want you!!!!! The government makes us offer this to you so we do!!!! We got rid of you for a reason!!!! The last thing we want is to have you hanging on our insurance and having our policy rated!!!! So, if you really want to hang on here then pony up to the table but we would prefer you go find you're own policy!!!!

Now you know why you pay alot for COBRA (Consolidated Omnibus Reconciliation Act)