A MUST READ FOR THE ANTI-WAR CLAN !!!!
#71
Originally posted by: BALDMIKE
Ya but if we need to go into Iran, where do you think we will start from ?
We need Iraq.....
Originally posted by: Cheapass
I am for the war on terror. That is why I oppose the war in Iraq. Saddam needed to be dealt with, but now is not the time to be deviding our forces between two unrelated wars.
The war on terror has dropped off the radar, both logistically and in the eyes of Americans.
I am for the war on terror. That is why I oppose the war in Iraq. Saddam needed to be dealt with, but now is not the time to be deviding our forces between two unrelated wars.
The war on terror has dropped off the radar, both logistically and in the eyes of Americans.
Ya but if we need to go into Iran, where do you think we will start from ?
We need Iraq.....
#72
I am a realist !
I am not volunteering our troops, if the LEFT would open thier eyes and take a look at what is really happening and not just what would be a good dream to fall asleep to then maybe they would realize hey, maybe it is us or them ?
I am not volunteering our troops, if the LEFT would open thier eyes and take a look at what is really happening and not just what would be a good dream to fall asleep to then maybe they would realize hey, maybe it is us or them ?
#73
Originally posted by: BALDMIKE
I am a realist !
I am not volunteering our troops, if the LEFT would open thier eyes and take a look at what is really happening and not just what would be a good dream to fall asleep to then maybe they would realize hey, maybe it is us or them ?
I am a realist !
I am not volunteering our troops, if the LEFT would open thier eyes and take a look at what is really happening and not just what would be a good dream to fall asleep to then maybe they would realize hey, maybe it is us or them ?
What's the solution to that you ask .... lets start nuking the f@ckers, oh wait they have the same capabilities. That would leave the earth in a green glowing state for let's say 10,000 years. If we as a country keep up this pre-emptive posture(which BTW 80% of the planet thinks otherwise) then we are doomed. ..... News Flash: Newsweeks article 6 months back gave a list of the top ten terrorist states of the planet, guess who was number one? ..... the answer will shock you! but dont take my word for it do the research for yourself.
#75
Glad to see youre another realist , baldmike, me too.
And do you agree with the official us government definition of terrorism? Ill post it here , to save you some time..."terrorism is definded as politically motivated violence perpetrated against non-combatant targets".
Do you also see that, depending on which side youre on, (giving or recieving), that the same act, committed by the same people, can be defined as freedom fighting or terrorism. Such as the tax stamp revolt, boston tea party, bacons fight...all these , and many more, were freedom fighters for america, but were terrorists for england.
In recent history, we still commit terrorism around the world. Such as the invation of panama, and grenada...there was no pressing need to invade, but we did and we also killed many hundreds of innocent civilians. How about when we bombed Kdaffi and killed his daughter and hundreds others? How about when we bombed the fertilizer factory in sudan, and killed thousands, and sent the country into a deep spiral down, with many thousands more dieing.
Being a realist, i can see china or someone else , making the point that america is a terrorist state and deserves to be preemtivly attacked.
Being the school yard bully only lasts so long..weve got the whole world against us, and its time to be real, and see the mess were in. We only have so many young people to throw into these senseless fights, and pretty soon they will revolt too. There are many censored, minor muninities in iraq already. If it werent for the fact that the government has the media all tied up in sensorship, and propaganda, youd hear about it. If you know anyone in iraq , or who has been there resently, and can talk without fear of retaliation, ask them about it. Youll be amazed what our government doesnt want us to know.
And do you agree with the official us government definition of terrorism? Ill post it here , to save you some time..."terrorism is definded as politically motivated violence perpetrated against non-combatant targets".
Do you also see that, depending on which side youre on, (giving or recieving), that the same act, committed by the same people, can be defined as freedom fighting or terrorism. Such as the tax stamp revolt, boston tea party, bacons fight...all these , and many more, were freedom fighters for america, but were terrorists for england.
In recent history, we still commit terrorism around the world. Such as the invation of panama, and grenada...there was no pressing need to invade, but we did and we also killed many hundreds of innocent civilians. How about when we bombed Kdaffi and killed his daughter and hundreds others? How about when we bombed the fertilizer factory in sudan, and killed thousands, and sent the country into a deep spiral down, with many thousands more dieing.
Being a realist, i can see china or someone else , making the point that america is a terrorist state and deserves to be preemtivly attacked.
Being the school yard bully only lasts so long..weve got the whole world against us, and its time to be real, and see the mess were in. We only have so many young people to throw into these senseless fights, and pretty soon they will revolt too. There are many censored, minor muninities in iraq already. If it werent for the fact that the government has the media all tied up in sensorship, and propaganda, youd hear about it. If you know anyone in iraq , or who has been there resently, and can talk without fear of retaliation, ask them about it. Youll be amazed what our government doesnt want us to know.
#76
Originally posted by: BALDMIKE
Pffft, lol.
Ok we have different views for sure.
I say get 'em first and you say wait around.........
Pffft, lol.
Ok we have different views for sure.
I say get 'em first and you say wait around.........
#77
Originally posted by: hondabuster
Glad to see youre another realist , baldmike, me too.
And do you agree with the official us government definition of terrorism? Ill post it here , to save you some time..."terrorism is definded as politically motivated violence perpetrated against non-combatant targets".
Do you also see that, depending on which side youre on, (giving or recieving), that the same act, committed by the same people, can be defined as freedom fighting or terrorism. Such as the tax stamp revolt, boston tea party, bacons fight...all these , and many more, were freedom fighters for america, but were terrorists for england.
In recent history, we still commit terrorism around the world. Such as the invation of panama, and grenada...there was no pressing need to invade, but we did and we also killed many hundreds of innocent civilians. How about when we bombed Kdaffi and killed his daughter and hundreds others? How about when we bombed the fertilizer factory in sudan, and killed thousands, and sent the country into a deep spiral down, with many thousands more dieing.
Being a realist, i can see china or someone else , making the point that america is a terrorist state and deserves to be preemtivly attacked.
Being the school yard bully only lasts so long..weve got the whole world against us, and its time to be real, and see the mess were in. We only have so many young people to throw into these senseless fights, and pretty soon they will revolt too. There are many censored, minor muninities in iraq already. If it werent for the fact that the government has the media all tied up in sensorship, and propaganda, youd hear about it. If you know anyone in iraq , or who has been there resently, and can talk without fear of retaliation, ask them about it. Youll be amazed what our government doesnt want us to know.
Glad to see youre another realist , baldmike, me too.
And do you agree with the official us government definition of terrorism? Ill post it here , to save you some time..."terrorism is definded as politically motivated violence perpetrated against non-combatant targets".
Do you also see that, depending on which side youre on, (giving or recieving), that the same act, committed by the same people, can be defined as freedom fighting or terrorism. Such as the tax stamp revolt, boston tea party, bacons fight...all these , and many more, were freedom fighters for america, but were terrorists for england.
In recent history, we still commit terrorism around the world. Such as the invation of panama, and grenada...there was no pressing need to invade, but we did and we also killed many hundreds of innocent civilians. How about when we bombed Kdaffi and killed his daughter and hundreds others? How about when we bombed the fertilizer factory in sudan, and killed thousands, and sent the country into a deep spiral down, with many thousands more dieing.
Being a realist, i can see china or someone else , making the point that america is a terrorist state and deserves to be preemtivly attacked.
Being the school yard bully only lasts so long..weve got the whole world against us, and its time to be real, and see the mess were in. We only have so many young people to throw into these senseless fights, and pretty soon they will revolt too. There are many censored, minor muninities in iraq already. If it werent for the fact that the government has the media all tied up in sensorship, and propaganda, youd hear about it. If you know anyone in iraq , or who has been there resently, and can talk without fear of retaliation, ask them about it. Youll be amazed what our government doesnt want us to know.
#78
Originally posted by: hondabuster
Glad to see youre another realist , baldmike, me too.
And do you agree with the official us government definition of terrorism? Ill post it here , to save you some time..."terrorism is definded as politically motivated violence perpetrated against non-combatant targets".
Do you also see that, depending on which side youre on, (giving or recieving), that the same act, committed by the same people, can be defined as freedom fighting or terrorism. Such as the tax stamp revolt, boston tea party, bacons fight...all these , and many more, were freedom fighters for america, but were terrorists for england.
In recent history, we still commit terrorism around the world. Such as the invation of panama, and grenada...there was no pressing need to invade, but we did and we also killed many hundreds of innocent civilians. How about when we bombed Kdaffi and killed his daughter and hundreds others? How about when we bombed the fertilizer factory in sudan, and killed thousands, and sent the country into a deep spiral down, with many thousands more dieing.
Being a realist, i can see china or someone else , making the point that america is a terrorist state and deserves to be preemtivly attacked.
Being the school yard bully only lasts so long..weve got the whole world against us, and its time to be real, and see the mess were in. We only have so many young people to throw into these senseless fights, and pretty soon they will revolt too. There are many censored, minor muninities in iraq already. If it werent for the fact that the government has the media all tied up in sensorship, and propaganda, youd hear about it. If you know anyone in iraq , or who has been there resently, and can talk without fear of retaliation, ask them about it. Youll be amazed what our government doesnt want us to know.
Glad to see youre another realist , baldmike, me too.
And do you agree with the official us government definition of terrorism? Ill post it here , to save you some time..."terrorism is definded as politically motivated violence perpetrated against non-combatant targets".
Do you also see that, depending on which side youre on, (giving or recieving), that the same act, committed by the same people, can be defined as freedom fighting or terrorism. Such as the tax stamp revolt, boston tea party, bacons fight...all these , and many more, were freedom fighters for america, but were terrorists for england.
In recent history, we still commit terrorism around the world. Such as the invation of panama, and grenada...there was no pressing need to invade, but we did and we also killed many hundreds of innocent civilians. How about when we bombed Kdaffi and killed his daughter and hundreds others? How about when we bombed the fertilizer factory in sudan, and killed thousands, and sent the country into a deep spiral down, with many thousands more dieing.
Being a realist, i can see china or someone else , making the point that america is a terrorist state and deserves to be preemtivly attacked.
Being the school yard bully only lasts so long..weve got the whole world against us, and its time to be real, and see the mess were in. We only have so many young people to throw into these senseless fights, and pretty soon they will revolt too. There are many censored, minor muninities in iraq already. If it werent for the fact that the government has the media all tied up in sensorship, and propaganda, youd hear about it. If you know anyone in iraq , or who has been there resently, and can talk without fear of retaliation, ask them about it. Youll be amazed what our government doesnt want us to know.
and another thing ..... I asume you also know that the {United States of America} was named the number 1 terrorist state on the planet! ..... you still want to Invade Iran Baldmike? (they were ranked number 4)
#79
The U.S wasn't rated a terrorist state in my book and thats the book that counts most to me.
You can live by the left or you can do whats RIGHT is what I always say........
You can live by the left or you can do whats RIGHT is what I always say........
#80
I have a few friends that are over in Iraq both in the air and on the ground and I haven't heard them tell me once this is the wrong war at the wrong time.
They have told me that the majority of the people over there want them there.........
They have told me that the majority of the people over there want them there.........


