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#81
You know......
The politics of politics has ruined the chance for us to be honorable.
Its a shame.
It is about oil......Its not all about oil, but oil plays a vital part in our national security, and oil and money are one in the same. So therefore Money plays a part in our National Security. This is something we need to understand.
I have come to the conclusion that:
There is too much evil in the world for the U.S. to stop it. We are damned if we do and damned if we don't.
We have the disadvantage of political correctness that we did not have in previous generations. (sometimes good sometimes bad)
We have the disadvantage of having our interests ($) all over the world, so whatever we do its protecting our money. This was not the case in war's previous. We were in fact establishing our interests. Now we are protecting them. Its a slippery slope.
The terrorist thing, yes I know one mans freedom fighter is another mans terrorist. But there is a distinct difference between targeting civilians, and targeting military installations and hitting s. I , as you do not have the evidence, but I do not think, as do you, that we are going around straping bombs to our soldiers and sending them into a crowded dance club full of Muslims.
You cannot compare the acts of the Boston Tea Party to the acts of Fatah, Hamas, Al Queada, or any of the likes. But I see you working....
We are not offering oppression of women, oppression of civil rights, or teaching hate of other religious sects (maybe more than hate).
We might want all to believe we are bringing Democracy, Feeedom, Rights, jobs, food, and happiness, and yeah thats kind of a load of BS. But its not what the Islamic Fundamentalists are bringing to the people or EVEN trying to bring to ANYONE.
I hate the fact we are in war. I hate the fact we have the best men and women in the world dying daily. I hate that we used to be the envy of the world and now we are not.
But if we go back to after 9/11, we al were convinced that Iraq had WMD, and it sure seemed like they were going to hook up with Al Queada and send some fertalizer planes our way with Anthrax on them, remember? It was scary. I live in Utah, and it was still scary. I know you big city boys were scared.
What we did was a good job of keeping anything from getting to us, and good ol' comfort has come back. We do not remember what it was like to be scared.
Now, We are all thinking that nothing can happen. No body gave any credit to the Adminsitration for NOT ALLOWING anythng to happen, and worse, we take for granted what got us here.
Have you heard about the Fatwa that Bin Laden just recieved? He now has Allah's blessing to nuke us. Thats scary.
How do we end what we started in Iraq? When we went there it seemed like it was the right thing to do. Now the right thing to do is no where to be found. Nobody knows the right thing to do. We can't leave, we can't bomb them more...damned if do damned if we dont.
My suggestion.....Have another beer and be glad my family is safe, my friends are safe, and my 500R is ready to go this weekend!
The politics of politics has ruined the chance for us to be honorable.
Its a shame.
It is about oil......Its not all about oil, but oil plays a vital part in our national security, and oil and money are one in the same. So therefore Money plays a part in our National Security. This is something we need to understand.
I have come to the conclusion that:
There is too much evil in the world for the U.S. to stop it. We are damned if we do and damned if we don't.
We have the disadvantage of political correctness that we did not have in previous generations. (sometimes good sometimes bad)
We have the disadvantage of having our interests ($) all over the world, so whatever we do its protecting our money. This was not the case in war's previous. We were in fact establishing our interests. Now we are protecting them. Its a slippery slope.
The terrorist thing, yes I know one mans freedom fighter is another mans terrorist. But there is a distinct difference between targeting civilians, and targeting military installations and hitting s. I , as you do not have the evidence, but I do not think, as do you, that we are going around straping bombs to our soldiers and sending them into a crowded dance club full of Muslims.
You cannot compare the acts of the Boston Tea Party to the acts of Fatah, Hamas, Al Queada, or any of the likes. But I see you working....
We are not offering oppression of women, oppression of civil rights, or teaching hate of other religious sects (maybe more than hate).
We might want all to believe we are bringing Democracy, Feeedom, Rights, jobs, food, and happiness, and yeah thats kind of a load of BS. But its not what the Islamic Fundamentalists are bringing to the people or EVEN trying to bring to ANYONE.
I hate the fact we are in war. I hate the fact we have the best men and women in the world dying daily. I hate that we used to be the envy of the world and now we are not.
But if we go back to after 9/11, we al were convinced that Iraq had WMD, and it sure seemed like they were going to hook up with Al Queada and send some fertalizer planes our way with Anthrax on them, remember? It was scary. I live in Utah, and it was still scary. I know you big city boys were scared.
What we did was a good job of keeping anything from getting to us, and good ol' comfort has come back. We do not remember what it was like to be scared.
Now, We are all thinking that nothing can happen. No body gave any credit to the Adminsitration for NOT ALLOWING anythng to happen, and worse, we take for granted what got us here.
Have you heard about the Fatwa that Bin Laden just recieved? He now has Allah's blessing to nuke us. Thats scary.
How do we end what we started in Iraq? When we went there it seemed like it was the right thing to do. Now the right thing to do is no where to be found. Nobody knows the right thing to do. We can't leave, we can't bomb them more...damned if do damned if we dont.
My suggestion.....Have another beer and be glad my family is safe, my friends are safe, and my 500R is ready to go this weekend!
#82
Originally posted by: BALDMIKE
I have a few friends that are over in Iraq both in the air and on the ground and I haven't heard them tell me once this is the wrong war at the wrong time.
They have told me that the majority of the people over there want them there.........
I have a few friends that are over in Iraq both in the air and on the ground and I haven't heard them tell me once this is the wrong war at the wrong time.
They have told me that the majority of the people over there want them there.........
#83
Originally posted by: BALDMIKE
The U.S wasn't rated a terrorist state in my book and thats the book that counts most to me.
You can live by the left or you can do whats RIGHT is what I always say........
The U.S wasn't rated a terrorist state in my book and thats the book that counts most to me.
You can live by the left or you can do whats RIGHT is what I always say........
#84
man you guys sure ramble on after a big ol Bong Hit. [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-wink.gif[/img]
hondabuster your sayin the terrorist acts of the middle eastern folks are the equivilency of acts such as the boston tea party? hmmm... sayin i aint gonna be raped for tax dollars that give me nothing is the same as sayin you guys suck cuz you let women run your country and run around naked but dam their hot.,?>
hondabuster your sayin the terrorist acts of the middle eastern folks are the equivilency of acts such as the boston tea party? hmmm... sayin i aint gonna be raped for tax dollars that give me nothing is the same as sayin you guys suck cuz you let women run your country and run around naked but dam their hot.,?>
#85
Originally posted by: DrDune
saying your willing to do the right thing and actually doing the right thing are two very different things. Just because your a {right winger} does not mean by any means that you are right! When you can make that disticntion then you may be able to see the actual side of things.
Originally posted by: BALDMIKE
The U.S wasn't rated a terrorist state in my book and thats the book that counts most to me.
You can live by the left or you can do whats RIGHT is what I always say........
The U.S wasn't rated a terrorist state in my book and thats the book that counts most to me.
You can live by the left or you can do whats RIGHT is what I always say........
I am doing the right thing for ME, not you, for me.
You can do the left thing for yourself.........
#86
I basically have to agree with KGB on this one, no matter what we do, it isn't going to be a perfect world. And even in our own country, if do things one way, some will get mad, and if we do things the way that some want, everyone else will get mad. It is just a big cycle of bs basically, I just worry about what all of our successors will have to go through.
#88
Originally posted by: BALDMIKE
I am doing the right thing for ME, not you, for me.
You can do the left thing for yourself.........
Originally posted by: DrDune
saying your willing to do the right thing and actually doing the right thing are two very different things. Just because your a {right winger} does not mean by any means that you are right! When you can make that disticntion then you may be able to see the actual side of things.
Originally posted by: BALDMIKE
The U.S wasn't rated a terrorist state in my book and thats the book that counts most to me.
You can live by the left or you can do whats RIGHT is what I always say........
The U.S wasn't rated a terrorist state in my book and thats the book that counts most to me.
You can live by the left or you can do whats RIGHT is what I always say........
I am doing the right thing for ME, not you, for me.
You can do the left thing for yourself.........
#89
Originally posted by: DrDune
Of course, the rightwing only thinks about themselfs ... you just proved it! You forget, (you) along with all like (you) share the planet with the rest of us. I really could careless if you didn't lend a helping hand if I needed one and you could give me one, because if it's not about you then it doesn't matter. See you have me mixed up. I am not governed by right or left mantallity, because both can be considered extreme.I think for myself. There are points on the right that I agree with, there are points on the left that tickle my fancy, but to say I'm one side or another is BOGUS!
Originally posted by: BALDMIKE
I am doing the right thing for ME, not you, for me.
You can do the left thing for yourself.........
Originally posted by: DrDune
saying your willing to do the right thing and actually doing the right thing are two very different things. Just because your a {right winger} does not mean by any means that you are right! When you can make that disticntion then you may be able to see the actual side of things.
Originally posted by: BALDMIKE
The U.S wasn't rated a terrorist state in my book and thats the book that counts most to me.
You can live by the left or you can do whats RIGHT is what I always say........
The U.S wasn't rated a terrorist state in my book and thats the book that counts most to me.
You can live by the left or you can do whats RIGHT is what I always say........
I am doing the right thing for ME, not you, for me.
You can do the left thing for yourself.........
And thanks to America you have your opinion and I have mine.......
#90
Originally posted by: OneFlyCowboy
man you guys sure ramble on after a big ol Bong Hit. [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-wink.gif[/img]
hondabuster your sayin the terrorist acts of the middle eastern folks are the equivilency of acts such as the boston tea party? hmmm... sayin i aint gonna be raped for tax dollars that give me nothing is the same as sayin you guys suck cuz you let women run your country and run around naked but dam their hot.,?>
man you guys sure ramble on after a big ol Bong Hit. [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-wink.gif[/img]
hondabuster your sayin the terrorist acts of the middle eastern folks are the equivilency of acts such as the boston tea party? hmmm... sayin i aint gonna be raped for tax dollars that give me nothing is the same as sayin you guys suck cuz you let women run your country and run around naked but dam their hot.,?>
On another point about terrorist strikes .... we all remember Pearl Harbor.
Now the Japs hit our (military) targets right? minimal civilian casualties.
4 years later we dropped 2 atomic bombs on 2 different cities ...... extremely high civilian casualties.
Is that not a terrorist strike? Keeping in mind that they hit our military installations and stayed away from civilians?


