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Old 01-09-2005, 03:37 AM
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It's not an ATV topic but there are lots of good young and high spirited folks on this site and I want them to be aware of something important. You could save a life.
I happened upon a site today called http://www.shamings.com/, that featured photographs 'shaming' young people who had drank too much liquor in a short time and become very drunk and have passed out (raise your hands, anyone here who has done that...), and have become victim to 'shaming' pranks in their stuporous state. These photos submitted by fans of the site are rated according to votes, I suppose, and it was the #1 pic that immediately caught my attention. The perpetrators of this prank had thought it funny to strap the drunken fellow down flat on his back to a bed with banding and an incredible amount of cling wrap! This is a remarkably bad idea!!! Not only is the cling wrap going to be elastic and restrict the guys breathing, especially in the amounts used there, but as soon as the guy vomits he is in immediate and mortal danger of aspirating and dying. Even if someone were at the bedside, alert and equipped with the tools to cut him free and is trained in airway maintenance (doubtful in the extreme) it might be too late to save him. As it is I'll bet that the moment he pukes, he's dead.
I have seen it.
It isn't nice.

I looked at a portion of the many archived pictures of pranks for more like this, and a number of them include someone tied or taped down on their side, (not a good thing at all by itself), but there were several more that showed a passed out person lashed inescapably to a chair or heavy couch and flat on their back.
My god people, can they not see what they are doing?

Would they tie up a drunken friend and put him head down in a barrel of water? It's close to the same thing.

Here's the letter I sent the site operators.
And PLEASE... If you are somewhere and see this being done, get in the way and make it stop.

Letter:
contact@shamings.com

I want to point out a problem regarding your #1 choice
pic. I am a paramedic. The #1 cause of death in the
extremely inebriated is what we call aspiration of
emisis. That is, the patient vomits while unconscious
and is unable to protect his own airway and thus
suffocates.

There is a dramatic difference between 'asleep' and
'unconscious', and advanced intoxication most often
leads to the latter condition. As has been pointed
out, the unconscious person is not easily awakened, in
fact most often cannot be awakened by stimulus. Thats
why you can paint them up! If a person is in the
head-back posture and vomits while unconscious, a very
predictable and expected reaction to an intoxicated
state, he will choke on his own vomit unless the most
elementary of self protection instincts are available
to him and enable him to at least roll over.

The fellow in your photo #1 is strapped down supine
and cling film wrapped in this posture. He cannot roll
over at all. Doubtless this was done in 'fun'. What it
could easily have done is killed him, guys.

I have been in the position of making unsuccessful
attempts to resuscitate young people who have died as
a result of aspiration of emesis.

It isn't any fun for anybody. You can well imagine and
if you can't I can tell you: The party really goes
sour when somebody dies.

I hope that you see it proper to remove this picture
so that no one is inspired by it to do such a thing to
a drunken friend. I wouldn't want to be you if they
did that because they saw the pic on your site and got
the idea to do it themselves, and some young person
died.

Hate to sound like an old rag but I am dead serious.
Painting up a drunk and passed out kid is an old
tradition alright, most everybody that partied in
their youth has done it or seen it, but that act in #1
is incredibly foolish and the very idea should not be
displayed.

Mike Stuart
B.C. Paramedic
 
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Old 01-09-2005, 05:39 AM
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WELL SAID!!!!!!!!
It's sad that people think that shamings site is funny!!!!!!!...It's really sick that some people think doing these kind of things are funny!!!!!
Being DRUNK & STUPID is a bad combination!!!!!!!!
 
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Old 01-09-2005, 11:16 AM
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you know, you hit my feelings dead on. i have a son who started collage last year. he came home over the holidays, and asked for some good pranks to play on his fellow students. i was shocked at some pranks he has seen, been part of, or had pulled on him. i hope he does not drink, but i am a realist, and cannot say for sure. this is the biggest fear of a father who's son is on his own, in a breading groud of pranks, freedom, sex, and access to alcohol and drugs.
thanks for the reply to the sight!
 
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Old 01-10-2005, 12:47 PM
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Well in the frat days we would paint(write all over them) persons who passed out.

No harm ever came from it though.
 
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Old 01-11-2005, 07:05 PM
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im 15 and i've never touched beer or drugs or cigaretes my entire life... alot of ppl say i havn't lived a day of my life cuz i don't do ne of this stuff...
 
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Old 01-11-2005, 07:22 PM
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well u cant have an opion on any of those things since uve never tried them
 
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Old 01-11-2005, 07:37 PM
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SPEEDY, DONT DO 'EM. WAIT UNTIL YOU ARE FULLY DEVELOPED THEN TRY IF YOU WANT. COOL ADVISE FROM A GUY THAT PARTIES. I AM 42 AND SINGLE, I DONT HAVE A DAD'S VIEW TO SHADE MY OPINIONS ONE WAY OR THE OTHER...SO TAKE IT FROM A GUY ON THE STREET THAT DOESNT HAVE ANYTHING TO WIN OR LOSE. WAIT;FOR IN PATIENCE IS VIRTUE.
REMEMBER JIMI HENDRIX HE DIED THAT WAY.
ITS NICE TO BE ABLE TO VOMIT WHEN YOU WANT/HAVE TO.
REALLY BASIC STUFF.
OTS OKAY TO BE STUPID BUT BE SMART ABOUT IT!
 
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Old 01-12-2005, 11:27 AM
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Originally posted by: Speedy2222
im 15 and i've never touched beer or drugs or cigaretes my entire life... alot of ppl say i havn't lived a day of my life cuz i don't do ne of this stuff...

im with you on this one speedy, 17 and i havent done anything. its just plain stupidity.
 
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Old 01-12-2005, 11:51 AM
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This is really a good thread, I see a lot of these actions happen. People don't do these things to hurt anybody, they just don't think of the consequences at the time. I don't think there is nothing wrong with a little shaving cream or paint, but some pranks need to be thought thru a little more.
 
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Old 01-12-2005, 12:25 PM
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Originally posted by: Speedy2222
im 15 and i've never touched beer or drugs or cigaretes my entire life... alot of ppl say i havn't lived a day of my life cuz i don't do ne of this stuff...

You're better off without 'em. Don't ever start and you won't struggle to quit.

 


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