I traded my '97 Recon for a '00 Rancher ES 4X4 and feel the need to instal a winch on it. I've been looking at Cabela's and wonder if anyone could offer some asistance between the models?

My brother put this big Warn on one of his bikes and spent about $450 - $600 on every bell and whistle. I don't have that kind of money to spend, especially since I've seen him use his two times in three years.

Will the Super Winch 1500 be sufficient for the occasional pull or tow, or should I be looking to the Warn 2000? Cost is an issue but if needed I will do the Warn.

 

Cabeals has good prices on their mounting kits but they are kinda high on their winch prices. I bought a Superwinch ATV 2000 from jegs[www.jegs.com} for $191. For the price you cant beat it.
Andy G

 

HondaHunter, SuperWinch ATV2000 and T1500 have identical motors and gear mechanisms.
The ATV2000 has an internal spring brake standard (retrofittable to the T1500 for $ 22); there may be upgraded electrical features on the ATV2000; I don't know.

The answer to your question, in my opinion, is a qualified "Yes, the T1500 should be adequate for ATV applications." The qualification: YOU MUST ALSO HAVE A ****** BLOCK.

Why? A ****** block doubles line pull extraction force; sometimes you need it. I proved my premise tonight.

Riding around a known marsh, except now covered with snow and ice, delighting in snowmobiling in the foot or so of snow that fell last week, I decided to cross this neo-catch basin. Things went fine, until, currrunch! The quad breaks through the thin crust of ice and snow; now, all four wheels are in boot-sucking mud; except amidships, the quad's semi-high centered on the snow and ice and marsh grass clumps. All four wheels are now mired down to their axles; spinning, but going exactly nowhere.

A job for Mr. Winch! (A 22-year-old SuperWinch ATV1500.) One minor problem; nothing to hook up to in the marsh! I tried my four 18" steel tent pegs and length of chain; didn't work in that ooze; if anybody wants the tent pegs; they're still there!

Then I snaked out my 65' of 1/4" wire rope I carry as auxiliary line, anchored it to the nearest "immovable object," then threaded the winch cable onto the ****** block. "Better not drop this hitch pin; never find it in this mess." O.K. "Better not drop this pivot pin; it'd be lost forever; couldn't find it with a magnet." O. K. "Probably could find the hook . . ." Sploosh! Well, I did find it, thanks to the fact I dropped it near the headlights; however, that sucker tried to "sound," or dive, like Moby Dick. If a piece of shiny galvanized steel hadn't shown above the surface, I'd be on my hands and knees there yet.

Attaching the ****** block hook to the long cable, I fastened the winch hook to a choker chain fastened to each side of the bumper.

UrrrrUrrrrUrrrrrUrrrr! My pull was mostly to the side (because of the anchor location), about sixty degrees from head-on. At first, I couldn't help much with the throttle, because the tires were not pointed in the direction of the pull. After pulling a ways, I let off the tension, backed slightly, and was able to point the front wheels in the general direction of the anchor.

Imagine this: You've got 600 pounds of quad, 200 + pounds of my corpulent mass, and your mission, if your choose to accept it, is to pull this total weight mostly sideways, lifting it out of its muskeg prison so it can get some traction.

Once the winch lifted the quad out of its hole, I was able to get surface traction and ride toward the anchor, where the snow rested on solid ground. If I'd broken through again, I'd only have to get another "bite" on the anchored cable and repeat the extraction scene as many times as necessary.

Without a ****** block, I'd still be out there in that winter wonderland; admiring it by starlight!

I've said it before; now I'll repeat: My SuperWinch ATV1500 AND ****** BLOCK have never left me, my companions, chance strangers in distress; and I've been SOME STUCK! (Oh, yeah, Pflueeb; by the time I'd extracted myself, the winch cable was already spooled; thus, I didn't have the opportunity wrapping my quad and me into our "ball of twine" impersonation, as I do when I neglect spooling the winch cable after use.)

There are other good winches; SuperWinch in my opinion serves adequately and offers low cost pounds of line pull force.

Well, you asked what time it was; now you know how to make your own watch! Sorry.

Tree Farmer

 

Thank you for your time to respond Tree Farmer. After reading a lot of the forum's here and many, many posts I respect and value your opinion and am glad you chose to respond.

I believe that I'll go with the T1500 as soon as I sell a spare set of Tires and rims I had purchased for my Recon. My brother tends to over-gun everything that he does, but hey, he's got the money to do that so more power to him.

Sounds as if you had a fun filled day. I hope to get my new Rancher into the woods at our farm in the next few weeks. If it would warm up and melt snow there should be sufficient amounts of mud to truely make a good test of it.

It is my hope that I made the correct descision in the Rancher and that I'll be as happy with it as I have be that recon. I'll miss that bike, I wish I could have kept it, but a transmission problem in my LaBaron made it rather difficult.

Again, thank you for your responce and good quading. Keep the rubber side down and the plastic side up.

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Northern Hydraulics has the T1500 for 132.99

www.northern-online.com/catalog

I am thinking about ordering the winch from Northern, and the Mount from cabelas.

 

That's exactly what i did, got the winch on sale, and then the kit, all came out to be around 200.(i got another 10 off, long story).. but it wired up easy enough, and i found, that most of the time, the winch without the block is usually good enough combined with all four wheels spinning to help it.

i got stuck yesterday in Lake Hartwell riding in the water, and all four wheels dug nice big holes, and i had nothing to winch too.. soo.. i found three huge rocks, bigger than i could carry, i just rolled them slowly down a hill, wrapped my strap around one, and used the other two to brace the one with the strap... then with the help of the wheels, the rocks, and the winch, it finally pulled itself out... it was quite the site me walking around in the water in Jan. putting straps around rocks and all... wish i had pictures... ha..

oh well...

how ever, i do have pics of how the winch turned out if anyone wants to see them, let me know.

-brian.
honda 4x4 300.

 

Sure, I'd appreciate seeing them. Can you e-mail them?

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I have a Rancher FE equiped with a Superwinch 2000. The 2000 came with 50ft of cable, the 1500 only has 25ft. North Hydraulics has the 2000 for 179.99 in there catalog.

My winch get used alot. I ride alone most of the time. Ride at night and I enjoy going threw the places "the day riders" detoured around. 80% of the time I make it threw without any problems. 20% of the time THANKYOU Superwinch 2000.

Good Luck & Happy ATVing

www.northern-online.com


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2000 Rancher 4x4 ES

 

Thank you Bill, I appreciate your responce. I do, however, think that I've settled on the SuperWinch though. When I ride with my brother I've no need for such; he has a Big Warn either 2500 or 3000, but if I ride around the house or with other friends I need the insurance a winch provides. I believe that the T1500 will work.

I'm going to invest in re-spooling the cable and carrying extra (original 25')in my pack, which I'd do even with the Warn. I believe that I'll as well as purchase a ****** block. I've first, however, got to sell a pair of tires and wheels from my Recon.

Again, thank you for your responce and information.


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I did just what your talking about. I have a t1500 in my quad, it has never failed to pull me out , but one of the first things that I did was to pull the 25ft of wire off and replace it with 50ft, I also had 2 50ft sections made that I zip tied to the back of my quad (only one keeping the other as backup) . IF you want to see pics go to the link below and click on the one that says "rear view". By the way it only cost $12 for a 200ft spool of the cable. It cost more to have the ends put on but you should be able to get it all done for less than $25



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99'FOREMANes, 26" BUGS, Maier full chasis skid plate, A.P. bash plate and stick guards, winch, supertrapp ids, K&N, dual snorkel, and a jet kit, yea buddy..