Try this to cool down your engine on your Polaris
#1
Well fellows here goes take a cap full of dawn and add it to your radiator...I read this where they were discussing a about a product that you add to your coolant, they simply said that adding a dish washing detergent such as Dawn would just about achieve the same thing. It works on the theory of a bonding agent, it works on the same principal as adding a couple of drops to water when watering plants that you have let the top of the soil dry out on and when you pour the water onto the dirt in the plant it just rolls off like water on a ducks back...if you don't believe me give it a try with some water on a recently dried out top soil in a plant. What do you guys thing about this idea I don't really see where it could hurt looks like this is another good question for Tree Farmer...so what do you guys think???
#2
Why would you have to worry about keeping your polaris cool,when polaris went out of it's way to provide liquid cooling, so that you wouldn't have problems like honda and yamaha supposedly have. Atving, your not telling me that polaris quads overheat even with liquid cooling are you.
#3
Sledder seems you are always reading between the lines as usual, no my polaris has never overheated not even with mud in the radiator. If you knew anything about mechanics you would know that a cooler burning engine delivers more power that is the reason they sell a cooler thermostat for the newer model vets so instead of trying to make this a helpful post you made it look rediculous. If you did know anything about mechanics you would know that a cooler burning engine brings more gas into the chamber which makes for more combustion because of the larger amount of gasoline. They don't sell those thermostats for sports cars for nothing as which I have owned many. Its also good to see that Honda finally caught up with technology and added water cooling so all the people who had always critisized Polaris for water cooling can now go out and buy a rubicon, you really stuck your foot in your mouth this time seems you jumped the gun a little to quick. Now if only Honda can get rid of those prehistoric drum brakes add a 2 to 4 wheel drive switch and offer something beside 3 wheel drive they may someday compete with the Polaris. Nothing personal against the Honda guys, this guys just ask for it with this post. Nothing was mentioned about a bike overheating and was posted for the intentional purpose of improving the performance of any water cooled ATV, so now he has made one post and turned it into a pissin battle. If you did know anything about Polaris you would know that the winch which I have on mine pretty well protects the radiator from getting mud in it and still provides excellent cooling do to the superior mounting design...now where did you say honda's put there winch's...thats what I thought. If anyone else would care to comment on what they think on this theory of dawn as a bonding agent I would be glad to hear there comments...this guy just ask for it though...
#5
Hey Fellas,
There was an excellent article on this in either Cycle World or Cyclist about 5 or 6 months ago.
I wish I knew where it it was as I would scan it and post if for you. I will try to find it.
The main focus was the idea of water tension.
Both on surface and around items (Inside water jackets)
The writer talked about when you take a warm bath,if you sit in for a few minutes without stirring it up the water around your skin will start to cool even though the bath water is warm.
Then when you move about to agitate the water it feels warm again.
The water develops a thermal barrier not letting the warmth from the surrounding water get to your skin.
On the subject of liquid cooling the same thing happens where certain areas of a head or liner may have water stagnating or "burbling"(This is an aircraft term) near the hot metal and cooler water is not allowed to cool the metal causing hot spots.
The using of a soap solution will help in this regard to break the water tension and allow the cooler water to mix with the hotter water more readily, but, the agitation provided by the water pump will produce suds and with suds you will have cavitation of the pump and with pump cavitation you will have overheat.
There are products out there that are made specifically for reducing water tension but I do not know if you would want to use them in a cooling system because I believe they contain sodium and acids.
Just my take.
Take it light
There was an excellent article on this in either Cycle World or Cyclist about 5 or 6 months ago.
I wish I knew where it it was as I would scan it and post if for you. I will try to find it.
The main focus was the idea of water tension.
Both on surface and around items (Inside water jackets)
The writer talked about when you take a warm bath,if you sit in for a few minutes without stirring it up the water around your skin will start to cool even though the bath water is warm.
Then when you move about to agitate the water it feels warm again.
The water develops a thermal barrier not letting the warmth from the surrounding water get to your skin.
On the subject of liquid cooling the same thing happens where certain areas of a head or liner may have water stagnating or "burbling"(This is an aircraft term) near the hot metal and cooler water is not allowed to cool the metal causing hot spots.
The using of a soap solution will help in this regard to break the water tension and allow the cooler water to mix with the hotter water more readily, but, the agitation provided by the water pump will produce suds and with suds you will have cavitation of the pump and with pump cavitation you will have overheat.
There are products out there that are made specifically for reducing water tension but I do not know if you would want to use them in a cooling system because I believe they contain sodium and acids.
Just my take.
Take it light
#6
well here is my thoughts on the subject What about foaming in the radiator would a anti foaming agent need to be used as well. Also is the detergent going to break down the antifreize compound i would think that your rad would be extremly clean. Also while on the subject Did you KNOW that you can use the works tolite cleaner to clean out radiators yes it works and it is cheap.
#7
Well atving,I didn't figure your polaris had ever overheated. Thanks for bringing your great expertise in mechanics to the forum.
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#8
Apparently from the answers I received on the posting I do apparently know some what I am talking about compared to bringing nothing but an ignorant remark that produced nothing except your lack of holding an intelligent conversation. You started this we can end it here or you can just keep digging yourself further.
#9
ATVING...
Why not just purchase some "Wetter Water" from Summit Racing Equipment... Its made JUST for reducing coolant temperatures on hot running engines...
As for running a cylinder cooler and cooler to make more power... thats somewhat true...
If you run a cylinder TOO cool, you can either foul out the cylinder and/or plug... or you can "wash" the protective oil layer off the cylinder walls..
Also, a cylinder thats TOO cool won't burn efficiently, won't produce power, and will have a short part life because of too loose clearances.. (not enough heat to promote expansion...)
I agree with whoever said that you would end up with cavitation and/or areation... NEITHER of which will help a liquid cooled engine on a hot day..
Just two cents worth... Some say I don't even have that..!!
Why not just purchase some "Wetter Water" from Summit Racing Equipment... Its made JUST for reducing coolant temperatures on hot running engines...
As for running a cylinder cooler and cooler to make more power... thats somewhat true...
If you run a cylinder TOO cool, you can either foul out the cylinder and/or plug... or you can "wash" the protective oil layer off the cylinder walls..
Also, a cylinder thats TOO cool won't burn efficiently, won't produce power, and will have a short part life because of too loose clearances.. (not enough heat to promote expansion...)
I agree with whoever said that you would end up with cavitation and/or areation... NEITHER of which will help a liquid cooled engine on a hot day..
Just two cents worth... Some say I don't even have that..!!


