I went to the dunes last Saturday. I met up with some guys on the forum. A DS650 2 Rappysand a 400ex. It was one of my best rides to date. The guy with the DS and his son on the EX also have a Scrammy 500 in stock form. They let me borrow the paddles off of it as I am still waiting for ITP to actually produce the SandStar in a 22x11x10. We had a great ride. The guys were impressed with my Scrammy over their stocker. I was very impressed with it after I put the paddles on it. I am definitely giving to much power away by not having paddles. Gave me back that grin factor. [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-happy.gif[/img]