Consider most of us dont have bundles of cash stacked up in the next room for us to use at our beckoning call I think for what we pay the Pred is by far way way ahead of the Z. This crap about which is faster and blah blah blah is all crap cuz in the end its about who has more money...however i think his question is which is faster, better in mud and trails, and pros/cons. His question wasnt who's z or Pred is fastest. I think he means in general in stock form. Cuz if money wasnt an issue we wouldnt be buying some mass produced quad that joe or bob down the street can buy.....we'd all be making our own!