How does you dealer know more people are buying the BF than the PS 800?

 

Not here, most people are going with the Polaris, as they are all across America as it is the most sold ATV...period. Not that other makers don't have it, but Polaris is the company of innovation...the first to come out with a full-independent suspension, the first to do EFI, etc. etc.

And, the BF is a problem child right now. I'm sure they'll work out the problems, but some of them are pretty serious. Nice machine as a friend of mine has one, but it has been back at the dealer 3 times now and is currently at the dealer for the last week because it will not run right, like it is running lean...

 

Elkbow,
Good point. I have never even seen a Brute Force while I been out playing.

 

Elkbow, I don't mean to start any arguments but Polaris did not have the first EFI quad, that title belongs to Cannondale, and the first IRS quad belongs to Suzuki. Some of Polaris' "firsts" I wouldn't brag much about, such as the single lever braking, but others are great and are definitely successful judging by the number of competitors that have copied. Just thought I would clear that up. rooster

 

When I think back to my years of owning an atv (bought my first in 1985).........I remember that no one else ever had an auto trannie with a belt and floorboards. Now I bet 90% of all utility ATV's sold have copied the design concept.

 

polaris was the first to have double A-arm rear suspension, first mass production ATV with efi, there unique 4wd, came out with the PVT, first with fullfloor boards, with any of these new bigbore ute's...i would take anyone of them, there all top notch(some are better at mudding/pulling/speed than others...)

 

I've driven the 800 EFI, one tough machine, stable, smooth, and torque that you would not believe. Popping a wheelie with stock components. I haven't ridden the Brute force yet, sure it's a nice machine, but it is going to have to prove itself a lot against the 800. Polaris finally proved what their twin cylinder engine can do.
As for the idenpendent rear suspension not being stable, that's not true. IRS is the only way to go on an ATV, not unless you want your as_ and back sore after a long ride!

 

back when they first introduced IRS to the sportsman 500...it was king of the 4wd world...had ample suspension, GC, power, the 4wd system...until other manufacturers finally caught on with the IRS, front locking diff, full floor boards, auto tranny...before the grizz 660(i believe it was) no other manu had a bigbore UTE with IRS...that was for quite a few years as well...

 

Yes, I'm not sure why it took so long for other companies to come out with an IRS machine after the Sportsman 500 in '96. It took Kawasaki until this year to have their first IRS quad. Then you have other companies such as Bombardier that thought the step-through seat would be the next biggest thing but they are doing away with it judging by the outlander series. Arctic Cat had that heel/toe shifter which I think everyone hated. But then you have other companies that took what Polaris has and refined it, such as making a belt drive automatic and adding engine compression braking. Polaris came out with that a little later. Other companies had a digital speedometer, and Polaris came out with a digital display (but not speedometer) later. I just don't understand why they won't lighten up their machines. At least keep them below 700 lbs. If you think the power of the 800 Sportsman is awesome, just think how the machine would be if it lost 200lbs! rooster

 

look at the axle slook at other componets and you can easily see where the weight is