The Mcpherson front end is the worst part of the scrambler! They bottom out when doing any aggresive riding especially in the woops. If they had the fox shocks like the pred on that it would rule.

 

agreed!

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If the new wolverine had a manual clutch I would say that yamaha was justified in its claims. As it stands all they did was put a kodiak engine in a "sportier" frame, the scrambler is still a better option.

 

Well the scrambler was a 400 2x4 so it was a bit lighter in the front if that helps. But if you treat a scrambler 500 4x4 like a race quad of coarse the shocks aren't gonna be any good. I know this kid who raced at this fair against yfzs and raptors on his 04' scrambler 500 and what do you think happened when he hit a 15 foot jump. The axle snapped and he had one back wheel. If the scrambler was meant to go through whoops and jump i think polaris would upgrade the struts.

 

Thats because, from what I know, it'd designed to be a great cross country type ATV. Obviously though, this isn't new info.

 

All I am saying is wouldn't it be cool if you could have a jumpable scrambler. I know that they are not made for that kinda thing....hence the comment about them needing to upgrade that front end.

 

When I went to the 06 test ride,I brought that issue up to the R+D guys. I told them that they need to get on the ball and make a sport framed scrambler with a auto efi 500 ,700,or 800. They all seemed to love the idea, As soon as i said it to them they all looked at each other and one said: " we didn't even think of that ,Thats a good idea"I also said that they need to show up the kfx700 with a quad of this type. Who Knows If they will do it But, I did my best to get the point around. I was saying stuff like "you don't even realise how many of us scrambler owners would buy this" I also busted their ***** alittle by saying "who really wants a hawkeye,most polaris guys would rather see a True Sport quad that is a auto clutch,Not another under powered 4x4 .
All I know is I put the word out for us scrambler lovers/owners.

 

There is, it's called a Predator.

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The Scrambler is just plain too heavy, regardless of shocks. Maybe a 2x4 400 Scrambler but to me thats useless, I'd rather just buy a Predator if I didn't need 4wd than a heavier 2wd Scrambler. Unless Polaris started using extremely light weight materials like they do in the snowmobiles, there will not be a light enough 4x4 Scrambler to be worth much on a track.

 

The predator is not an automatic, that is the key. The kfx700 is automatic and to compete I would think polaris should consider an outlaw with autotrans and a 700 efi. Sure it would weigh more than the outlaw already does, but the KFX700 is not an mx quad, it is a great trail quad and I think there is a huge market for this!

Or

Consider a new scrambler redesigned with the outlaw idea(rear IRS), a new frame design that is aluminum and steel(think of the raptor frame) for strength in areas and lightweight too, a 700 efi motor, same belt drive clutch system as the 800(roller secondary), and in 2 models a 2x4 and a 4x4.

I would trade my scrambler in today, and mine is only a year old. Anyone that has rode a scrambler or gone ridding with someone that has one can tell you it is a beast of a quad that can do almost anything and do it great! The only thing it can't do is jump more than 8-10 ft high.

Its not that I can't shift as I used to have a yamaha 125 dirt bike, and an RF600 streetbike. I just think auto is so much better for trails. You always have plenty of power right there anytime you need it. Now that I have rode an auto for this past year I don't think I will ever go back to a manual trans.

 

I COMPLETELY agree that they need something that will compete with the KFX700, like I mentioned in my first post in this thread. I mentioned the Predator simply because the guy wanted a jumpable Scrambler. If anyone wants to jump.....go buy a Predator...thats what it's for. There is no need to redesign a Scramber for the track, which is what this thread has sort of taken off with. Infact, if anyone really wants a sportier Scramber....go buy an Outlaw...because thats basically what it is!

I disagree on the Outlaw, for my uses anyway, it's too sporty for me and has no 4wd.

I think the Scrambler is fine, just needs a 700 carb or EFI option. I would probably keep the solid axle in a new model with a 700, but I haven't seen an Outlaw in person yet. 4x4 is a must, otherwise I'll be keeping my current '04 Scrambler or just get an 800 SP. I don't really think the Scrambler even needs a 2x4 option, that is what the Outlaw pretty much is.

My point was directed towards the jumping aspect. It doesn't matter what they do to the Scrambler, if a guy wants to jump he will have to own a Predator or Outlaw. I felt this thread was taking the attitude, "the Scrambler needs A arms, fox shocks, 2x4"..... basically saying Polaris needs to turn the Scrambler into a Predator, which won't happen for obvious reasons thankfully. That "Scrambler with A arms, fox shocks, 2x4" already exists....It's called an Outlaw and should be at the dealers very soon.