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Old 10-15-2006 | 09:49 PM
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Default Trail Boss 250 No start when warm

Hi everyone,

I recently purchased a 1990 Trail Boss 250. It needed a bit of work, but overall, was in very good condition.

I replaced the starter on the machine. I have also replaced the clutch cover, and installed a new battery.

When I first got the machine, I got it started, and ran it on a limitted basis (no clutch cover). I never had a problem starting the machine cold or warm with the pull start.

Since replacing the starter, the machine will start beautifully when cold. Once it has been run for a while, and shut off, it will not start warm. I checked the spark, and it has no spark when warm. If I let it set for a while, and come back to it, it will start right up again.

I don't know if the starter being replaced is coincidental, or has anything to do with it. I am betting it is coincidental.

I have evaluated the ETC, and have by-passed it temporarily for the purpose of troubleshooting. I origionally suspected the kill switch on the handlebar, thinking it was just intermittant, and not related to the machine being warm. I disassembled the handlebar switch, and checked the contacts for continuity. When the kill switch is activated, it completes a circuit (I assume this circuit is to ground).

It continued to do it today. Let it set for a while, and it will fire right up quick, and run beautifully. No misfires, no problems (idle is a bit low, but unrealated). Run it until it is warm, shut it off, and she will turn over and over, with no start.

I do not have a service manual for this machine (this will be my next purchase). Something in my mind leads me to the coil. It seems that I remember my father working on a snomobile that would not fire when warm, and that was the issue (although it fires fine when running... just won't start.)

Does anyone here have any input? Thanks!

 
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Old 10-16-2006 | 11:13 PM
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Default Trail Boss 250 No start when warm

are u sure there is no spark when warm? ( check it in a darker area with the
spark plug touching the head making a good ground or use a spark checker)
if u don't have spark it sounds like it is all heat related. most likely the coil,
the cdi modlue, or the stator(cdi trigger coil) the service manual will give u
all the resistance values of these, also will it start if u pull start it when warm?
if it does then something in the starting circuit is messing it up.
 
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Old 10-17-2006 | 11:43 AM
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Default Trail Boss 250 No start when warm

My boys tb 250 wouldnt start when warm. It turned out to be low compression.
 
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Old 10-17-2006 | 01:21 PM
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Low Compression would explain it if it were firing, but it has no spark when warm.

I have not checked for fire/start with the pull start... maybe I will get a minute to do that tonight.

If anyone else has any input, I would be appreciative... otherwise, I will begin to troubleshoot with the coil once I check to see if it has any spark with the handcrank when warm (although that would be really confusing!)

 
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