polaris reliability
#21
I own a 2010 400HO with onre caliper on rear - first time ATV owner, etc.. the ATV is 3 wks old.
A question... I know its extra $$ etc.... but I can buy the disc and caliper for the left wheel and put it on the right can't I ? The line will be upside down, haven't looedk at all details, but it is doable ? Would the master cyl need to be replaced ?
This surely has to be a doable mod, I wonder if anybody did this, I would appreciate a link... I woudl do it when the warranty expires on this one lol...
As a first time owner but owner of cars motorbikes etc I was amazed they did this, yes it is a solid rear axle but it is not one piece of metal is it, i.e. there is some free play betweenL and R, enough fior the tires to brake unevenly, and that is what got me into a barb wire fence and a post with my wife's small car (uneven braking) and almost costed my life. Admittedly it was a front tyre... but I hate the idea of a brake on one wheel.
I have tested this rear brake on concrete, steep slope (my looong driveway), the brake does nothing except squeaking... dealer says its normal, I say not really...20cm free play on the pedal... anyway soon Ill take the fairings off and have a look at what the heck is going on there.. dealer is far and they are pretty hopeless...Im in AUS btw. On my bike I have one disc, sure but its one wheel lol... and it is nice and hard, makes you confident...unlike this one. With no engine braking and just the handlebar brake I was really scared when I took it in the backyard. not funny :-/
A question... I know its extra $$ etc.... but I can buy the disc and caliper for the left wheel and put it on the right can't I ? The line will be upside down, haven't looedk at all details, but it is doable ? Would the master cyl need to be replaced ?
This surely has to be a doable mod, I wonder if anybody did this, I would appreciate a link... I woudl do it when the warranty expires on this one lol...
As a first time owner but owner of cars motorbikes etc I was amazed they did this, yes it is a solid rear axle but it is not one piece of metal is it, i.e. there is some free play betweenL and R, enough fior the tires to brake unevenly, and that is what got me into a barb wire fence and a post with my wife's small car (uneven braking) and almost costed my life. Admittedly it was a front tyre... but I hate the idea of a brake on one wheel.
I have tested this rear brake on concrete, steep slope (my looong driveway), the brake does nothing except squeaking... dealer says its normal, I say not really...20cm free play on the pedal... anyway soon Ill take the fairings off and have a look at what the heck is going on there.. dealer is far and they are pretty hopeless...Im in AUS btw. On my bike I have one disc, sure but its one wheel lol... and it is nice and hard, makes you confident...unlike this one. With no engine braking and just the handlebar brake I was really scared when I took it in the backyard. not funny :-/
#22
You should be using the handlebar lever for braking not the foot brake..
the handlebar one is for all three wheels.
The foot pedal is a safety to activate the rear brake and will lock up the back tires............Two front dics and one rear is more than enough for a 600-700 lbs. quad.
......Caper.......
the handlebar one is for all three wheels.
The foot pedal is a safety to activate the rear brake and will lock up the back tires............Two front dics and one rear is more than enough for a 600-700 lbs. quad.
......Caper.......
#23
You should be using the handlebar lever for braking not the foot brake..
the handlebar one is for all three wheels.
The foot pedal is a safety to activate the rear brake and will lock up the back tires............Two front dics and one rear is more than enough for a 600-700 lbs. quad.
......Caper.......
the handlebar one is for all three wheels.
The foot pedal is a safety to activate the rear brake and will lock up the back tires............Two front dics and one rear is more than enough for a 600-700 lbs. quad.
......Caper.......
And which Polais only weighs between 6-700 pounds and what about the ones that weigh nearly 800 pounds?
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Polaris eliminated one of the rear calipers to cut costs not because one is better than two.
10 square inches of braking surface is better than 5. Anybody can lock their wheels up. I can even lock mine up with old drum brakes so I guess using your reasoning disc brakes won’t stop you any better than drum brakes because they will both lock up the wheels.
10 square inches of braking surface is better than 5. Anybody can lock their wheels up. I can even lock mine up with old drum brakes so I guess using your reasoning disc brakes won’t stop you any better than drum brakes because they will both lock up the wheels.
I guess with your reasoning you could put six piston corvette Z06 calipers on the atv and stop better.
Most people think that if they think it's better than it should be better. You could have the biggest baddest brake system in the world on a Honda civic but with no ABS it won't stop any faster or quicker than the stock brakes, no questions asked!
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Polaris eliminated one of the rear calipers to cut costs not because one is better than two.
10 square inches of braking surface is better than 5. Anybody can lock their wheels up. I can even lock mine up with old drum brakes so I guess using your reasoning disc brakes won’t stop you any better than drum brakes because they will both lock up the wheels.
That is exactly right, the fact that the rear is a solid axle has nothing to do with it, they were just being cheap by removing one of the rear brakes. Just like there being cheap by using a plastic upper steering stem bushing on the newer models. Personally i would prefer to have two rear brakes.
10 square inches of braking surface is better than 5. Anybody can lock their wheels up. I can even lock mine up with old drum brakes so I guess using your reasoning disc brakes won’t stop you any better than drum brakes because they will both lock up the wheels.
That is exactly right, the fact that the rear is a solid axle has nothing to do with it, they were just being cheap by removing one of the rear brakes. Just like there being cheap by using a plastic upper steering stem bushing on the newer models. Personally i would prefer to have two rear brakes.
I'm not sure on the exact numbers but the front brakes do like 80% of the braking force so I for sure would agree with yall if they locked the front and removed a front caliper! But since the front does so much of the work you could really put 20 calipers on the back and not stop any quicker than one caliper
#27
[QUOTE=bigt2317;2985271]Yes I beleive your right on cutting cost but it's also smart since it technicly doesn't help the performance of the brakes. I also beleive your right on the sq. in. of braking surface to be better but then again on a atv there is a point where more doesn't mean better. now IF our atvs had anti lock braking then yes I could see your point.
I guess with your reasoning you could put six piston corvette Z06 calipers on the atv and stop better.
Most people think that if they think it's better than it should be better. You could have the biggest baddest brake system in the world on a Honda civic but with no ABS it won't stop any faster or quicker than the stock brakes, no questions asked!
Sure the solid rear axle has everything to do with it! Look at a lot of forklifts they typicly have 1 brake on each axle since they are locked. Even A LOT of the military oversize trucks use the rockwell axle, most are not mechanicly locked but a lot only have 1 brake on each axle.
I'm not sure on the exact numbers but the front brakes do like 80% of the braking force so I for sure would agree with yall if they locked the front and removed a front caliper! But since the front does so much of the work you could really put 20 calipers on the back and not stop any quicker than one caliper
Yeah, it's because under heavy breaking weight is transferred to the front, making the rear breaks useless.
I guess with your reasoning you could put six piston corvette Z06 calipers on the atv and stop better.
Most people think that if they think it's better than it should be better. You could have the biggest baddest brake system in the world on a Honda civic but with no ABS it won't stop any faster or quicker than the stock brakes, no questions asked!
Sure the solid rear axle has everything to do with it! Look at a lot of forklifts they typicly have 1 brake on each axle since they are locked. Even A LOT of the military oversize trucks use the rockwell axle, most are not mechanicly locked but a lot only have 1 brake on each axle.
I'm not sure on the exact numbers but the front brakes do like 80% of the braking force so I for sure would agree with yall if they locked the front and removed a front caliper! But since the front does so much of the work you could really put 20 calipers on the back and not stop any quicker than one caliper
#28
Yeah, it's because under heavy breaking weight is transferred to the front, making the rear breaks useless.[/quote]
Does that principle go for quads as well? On most quads is there a choice between all or just the rear braking? On the x2 you can just do rear with the foot. Coming from motorcycles I have a hard time forcing myself to use the hand brake.
Does that principle go for quads as well? On most quads is there a choice between all or just the rear braking? On the x2 you can just do rear with the foot. Coming from motorcycles I have a hard time forcing myself to use the hand brake.
#29
Yeah, it's because under heavy breaking weight is transferred to the front, making the rear breaks useless.
Does that principle go for quads as well? On most quads is there a choice between all or just the rear braking? On the x2 you can just do rear with the foot. Coming from motorcycles I have a hard time forcing myself to use the hand brake.
Does that principle go for quads as well? On most quads is there a choice between all or just the rear braking? On the x2 you can just do rear with the foot. Coming from motorcycles I have a hard time forcing myself to use the hand brake.
#30
Coming from motorcycles I have a hard time forcing myself to use the hand brake.[/QUOTE]
Hard to do front wheel wheelies, if you don't learn how to use the front brake on a motorcycle. I thought the rear brake only, was just for laying it down on it's side!