ANDY ;you lost me with the honda vs belt thing,sure I defend polaris because they have been good to me.If there was anything that I didn't like about it, I would be first to say.But I have no problems with it.You are very defencive of CAT,and seem to think everyone should buy one.What is your problem with polaris,you didn't buy one why do they intimadate you so.Almost every post you put in here you mention polaris do I detect some hidden envey.My polaris does the job for me and I could give a rats a#$ if anybody else buys one I have mine and thats whats important to me.I don't try to shove them down anyones throat.If i'm asked I will voice my opinon, also will say that dealer is most important thing.If you don't have good support, it makes no diff what you got.I'm sorry but a plastic belt cover wasn't enough to sway my decision to buy polaris.By the way have never replaced one yet.My 425 has over 4000 miles on it and still has original belt.LATER COB

 

My apologies on talking sleds, but Cob pushed a few buttons. As far as belt drives go, Bombardier could have easily developed an atv with a belt drive tranny. As I'm sure Cob would tell you, their T.R.A. primary clutch is considered the standard by which all others are judged. The same could be said of Artics secondary. Why do you think Bombardier chose not to use belt drive on their atv's? I'll bet for the same reason Honda chose not to, because their is no way to make a belt drive CVT fool proof when , water, mud, and heat are involved. Now for a little Polaris storie. As some of you may know, I'm currently shopping for a new 4x4 atv. A couple of weeks ago I stopped at a local dealership that sold , Polaris,Bombardier,and Suzuki. I asked him (salesman) what he thought of the three brands he sold, and he told me when he sells a Suzuki he never sees it again, as far as the Bombers he couldn't honestly say. HE had only sold a couple recently. Then he gave me his honest opinion of the Polaris's, he told me they are his best sellers by far, but unless they are purchased by older riders, who are less inclined to abuse them, They are in for repairs frequently . I know what your thinking, he wanted to sell me one of his other brands. Wrong! He Didn't even have a Bombardier in stock, and as far as Suzuki was concerned, he was sold out of all 500's, and only had afew king quads in stock. He did have about ten Polaris's in stock though. I'm sure if his boss had heard our conversation he'd be looking for a job now. I'm leaning towards a Honda, but as far as the original question I'd go with the cat, it has Suzuki running gear, and I've never heard any thing negative about them. One other thing, if a polaris guy broke down in the middle of siberia, in a raging blizzard,and barely made it back with his life. The first thing he'd tell you is how wonderful his machine is!!!!That comment comes from years of riding with polaris sled heads. P.S. Andrew look at the MXZ 700, you won't be sorry. P.S.S. since when are Subaru's made in the USA?

 

AT ;you say this is atv site but yet seem to enjoy spending more time bashing me and my opinon.

>Only because you don't know what you are talking about as with the post where you were debating with Gordon where you eventually quit debating because you were starting to look like a fool defending a polaris

I beg you for your forgiveness, for mentioning a snowmobile, consider my hand slapped,I'm guilty of talking about some thing that I know,and can compare with.

>Well I am glad you think you know something about snow mobiles cause you sure lack in atv's.

Maybe we should all go and jump on the guy, that asked for advice on snowmobile in here.

>Not particularly but when you start comparing snow mobiles to atv's thats when you need to start a new topic or go to a snow mobile forum.


Gee somewhere right back afew post I seem to remmber a statement about 70's cars,who shall we chew out for that,since this is atv site,that was started with question about EBS,not money or what to buy or cars.

>Uh excuse me wrong again cob I wasn't trying to transfer the topic to something else like which snow mobile was faster I was using a similar topic to compare to the topic at hand the issue was that useless EBS polaris has I was making the statement that 70's american cars had a time when they were making cheap parts like polaris until the japanese competition came along selling cars cheaper which made the 70's big 3 improve their product I didn't drift off like you did and start talking about what 70's cars were faster...

Also what have sheep and wolves have to do with this the ATV site.

>Man what are you talking about here if anything probably something that referred back to the debate.

You say you tell the bad parts so people can make up thier mind,well thats all I have done is tell my view point,

>I do tell the bad parts which I have read and yes you do tell your view point which is apparently you know nothing about.

so they can make up thier mind.Am I supposed to belive that AC sends in all the parts in a box and dealer puts it all together,YEAH RIGHT!!!

>Just goes to show from one of your previous posts you said some bunch of people went around putting together atv's...man what kind of science fiction stuff are you reading or watching you seriously need to cut back. This was what you said exactly
I quote
"The same YA-HOO's that put polaris together,are the same ones that put cat, or honda,together,they just move from place to place".
I have never heard anything more rediculous in my life man where do you get your material you need to contact the sci-fi channel you may have a career in the making and just don't know it. Rooster in the preceding post even said that polaris is being shipped more together now so all they have to do is put the handlebars and wheels on I have yet to see a traveling caravan of gypsy atv builders??

Just hope your as happy with your choice as I am mine,my views are from actual experience,

>Oh I am probably happier I am not trying to defend something or make something out of it, it is not.

not what I have read from some guy's,brothers,sister's ex- boy friends neighbor.LATER COB

>Well my post are from experience riders in my area that like to go real places to ride like Gordon does you really need to look into buying a 2 wheel drive truck for what atving you do and as far as brothers, sister's ex-boy friends, neighbors oh so I guess you are calling all the people on here liars especially the ones that are have trouble with those junky sportsmans. Why didn't you provide some comebacks to the questions I answered for you like the part there are more break down cause there are more polaris waaaaaaaaaaaaa it is becaused I made you realize it wasn't true considering how many different atv makers there are and how long they have been making them so how bout giving us some answers to some of these,
Its just like Gordon says you need to get your facts straight before you make posts on here by doing research or by some other means
...gypsy atv builders...boy talk about loseing your reliability on here ok now your turn cob honestly answer the facts I have given you not some little idiot comeback like I got a sp500 na na na na lets hear something intelligent. If you can convince me I will listen no body is picking at you but with some of the wild stuff you come back with its like hawks circling a rabbit just waiting for it not to move. I really wish you would agree with about the cheap stuff polaris is doing so along with you I would work to give them hell so they would start putting quality stuff on their bikes cause I would like to buy one myself I agree they are awsome on the trail and would like to see them develop into a quality product. Last but not least that was a real cheap shot you did on Andy he is the last person in the world to try and shove buying an AC500 down your throat I have seen him jump on Boner for doing this. Andy is just like I am he tells it like it is he makes his posts from facts and what he has read and I seriously doubt he has any secret desires about the sport I would say he is satisfied with his Cat as I am but you don't see him taking up for any of its short comings. One thing before I go I read one of the post a gentlman made about asking a dealer who sold suzuki,bombardier and polaris read what he sayed cob this is not an isolated condition as I had told you of my experience when buying my Cat if the dealer has no confidence in what he is selling how in the hell can you...he said that the polaris would be good for some old man who don't abuse them THEY ARE IN FOR REPAIRS CONSTANTLY
and this guy sold them for a living I really laughed one time when I read that a person had posted he thought Polaris sold a video with their bikes that brain washed their customers but I am really starting to see where he derived this from. Maybe you bought the sport for some light riding and that is alright cob seriously I mean that but if you ever want to do some real 4 wheeling bring that piece of **** sportsman here to WV and we will see what it takes I ride abusive like Gordon does and I don't think your sport would hold up in this area...Also Cob these post I do are all in good fun trust me I do not get mad I am a cop in WV and very use to debating I am a very hard kidder so get out and fun on that sport you might even consider putting you one of those squeeze horns on the handle bars so you can blow at those mountain bikers as they pass by...

Artic Cat 500...consider where your at if you see the rear of my atv

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You say I don't know what I'm taking about .But then you go on to tell me were and how I ride,that I should have two wheel pickup with what I do.Where is it you get that info,along with the rest that you put out.You don't know me,why is it you know so much.This has been my point all along, get your facts straight before engageing your mouth.This was a ATV post, but has turned into a psyhic hot line.You should get your own 800#. I've yet to see you prove me wrong on what I've said about polaris,just try to attack me personaly.What is your problem?LATER COB

 

I have to admit this post has gotten a little off topic, but there is one thing I can't condone, and thats personal attacks,and name calling. I don't agree with Cob's opinions, but that is what makes these forums entertianing. It all gos back to that ford vs. chevy thing, but should never get personal. Later Bob Oh yeah chevy's are #1

 

BOB;maybe I don't agree with your views either,but then again if we all agreed, what would we be here for.I disagree with you on snowmobiles, but then I'm a powder nut,and you must be more of a trail rider,does that make you or me wrong?Where do you ride?Any snow yet? LATER COB

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Bob4x4,
Are you asking me about Subarus??? I don't remember saying anything about them...
As far as the Skidoo, my friend has one and my grandpas neighbor has 2 of them. They tell me to go that route. The one guy is good friends and rides often with the dealership owner. I really think any of the big 4's sleds are awesome, but I just can't get that new Indy 600 out of my head! 141hp with some mods. Hmmm.... Plus still light enough for ditches and stuff. I'm not much into Yamahas but that Blue color on those 700's. damn thats nice too! But so is the yellow MX-Z 700!
I better just save my money!!!


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Andrew Thomas

'99 Scrambler 400 & '99 Trailblazer, both with RCR mods.

 

Cob, I ride in N-NH, N-ME, and Quebec. I also like sleds with alot of HP. The formula III 700 has 125 ponys bone stock and is better on fuel than an Indy 500. Triple pipes alone bring it up to 140 (same as Mach 1), and everyone knows what you can do with a rotax when you get serious. Remember the old twin track formula 1 sleds? 340cc and over 100 hp. Oh yeah, I took my 59 MG convertable for a ride to day,I guess thats all you need to know about the snow around here. I tell you one thing, when Bombardier decides to offer more atv models look out. The two they are already selling show alot of Ingenuity for a first effort. Andrew, truth is nobody makes a bad sled at the moment, hell I even bought my wife an Indy 340 a few years ago,but shhhhhh don't tell Cob! LOL The parent company of Subaru is Fuji, thats right the same Fuji that manufactures alot of Polaris's motors. the Subaru thing is just a little joke for all the people who insist polaris's are made in the USA. Gotta admit "Subaru Sportsman 500" has a nice ring to it. By the way I like Honda atv's the best, and am thinking of getting the new Rancher next month. Later.

 

It seems that the only people that have knowledge of Polaris terrible reliablitly are people who don't own them? Seems that the people that ride them, Like me, don't see to have the terrible reliability issues.

 

My sentiments exactly xepathfinder they are the one who complain the most. Them and the guys who get consistently beat by us on the trails.

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Kevin Gowdy aka Kagey 1999 Polaris Magnum 500