hey maniac ..you must be 12 years old.you mean to tell everyone that you pulled a 700 pound polaris ho that out ways you by 200 pounds and has way more power and has all 4 turning????i have pulled with everything going polaris /honda /yamaha//kaw///and so on..polaris is very hard to beat because of the weight and power.i seen a 200 pound rider on a ho pull a rubicon withalso a 200 pound rider on blacktop in two wheel drive.the rubicon or any honda for a matter of fact are no pulling machine when compared to polaris.and on your belt crying problem.....i would rather replace a 50.00 belt and be fixed than buy a 1500.00 trans everytime it broke.my local dealer said they had alot of rubicons coming in with trans troubles.so choke on that slapnut......holler if you hear me.!!!!!!!!

 

I thought that Belt drives were just the thing to have? At least thats what I've been learning in the Yamaha forum.

The Rincon will have upsides to the 700, but won't perform better in anything other than maybe the handling dept.

 

I imagine that the good folks at Honda want to go after the Prairie/Wolverine/Scrambler Sport 4x4 rider, rather than the hardcore mudders or rock hounds. They also know what the magazines like, sporty performance in a 4x4. They're no dummies, they know the magazines will give them a good write up if the machine is at least a little sporty.

It remains to be seen if a 650 "LOW-TECH" pushrod single will out do the twin cylinder machines. I rather doubt it. Yamaha's Grizzly does put out slower drag times than either the Polaris or the Prairie. I can't help wondering if a smaller carb might improve low speed take off performance.

 

i wanna hear more about these 600 v-twin ho's , hopfuly not pushrod....

 

Rubicons destroying HO's [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-shocked.gif[/img] LOL! Maniac the MATRIX has you. Take the blue pill.

The other big secret news was from Bombardier. They are going to have a 400cc sport/utility quad with IRS. The factory guys said it was going to be more on the sport performance side.

The 600 Sportsman is coming soon...

 

You know that nasty smell that comes from a vacuum cleaner when you get tangled in something, thats what kind of smell these Polaris made, Polaris is not a pulling machine, If you touch the throttle and the wheels dont move, you belt is f*cked. Trust me, I aint twelve either, Im 37, And I have raced cars and fourwheelers alike, You need to get your facts straight before you come ranting at me. I only tell the truth.

 

Maniac 7599,

Probably the reason that most pickup trucks have drum brakes in the back is the fact that there isn't a lot of weight in the rear of those vehicles (if you aren't hauling anything). Drum brakes on the rear of pickup trucks has very little to do with mud. Most manufacturers use them because of the weight bias between the front and rear. I would imagine that some of the newer models might just have anti-lock disc brakes in the rear. The big three know that 90% of the time the trucks are driven unloaded and that a disc brake would make the rear lock up too easily.

As far as the Rincon is concerned, guess what provides the "automotive style" three speed tranny with it's ability to shift? That's right, a belt. Granted, it's not the same as a CVT belt, but it's a belt none the less. I've seen automatic automotive trannys rip up a belt in heavy mud just as you've seen Polaris machines rip up a belt during a pull off. The only difference is that it costs a whole lot less and is a lot easier to replace the Polaris belt, than the automotive tranny belt.

 

Haha...it's funny...when other manufactures use old or dated technology it's because they are junk, but when Honda does it, it's for a reason.

 

HOw do you know about the Rincon's Tranny Mike Chero? I have disected Car transmissions many times, and if they say it is automotive style, then it will be all gears, no belts, It should have a Torque converter and a clutch, those will control the shifting, It has nothing to do with belts. If you think a Torque converter is some sort of belt, then maybe, but a Torque converter is more wheel like. I dont see how a belt would make it shift, But maybe Im wrong, Explain what exactly your saying?

 

Burning belts eh? How about your lawn mower transmission? I think Honda has that tranny on a snow blower too. Please tell me why your Honda hydrostatic tranny is failing in record numbers in Alaska? Oh yea right it's not built for cold weather.

As for squealing sounds besides somebody twisting your ear, your Honda makes quite a high pitched squealing when under stress/load.