your right the yfz is not the king and there will never be because there will always be something better. and its more in the rider than the quad but its nice to have a good quad to back u up. but the in all the honda still doesnt pull like thay said it did i just didnt like it at all it just like riding a 400ex but if it was un corked and the air box open mabey but stock 2 stock the yfz just seems like it has more power and the z is a nice quad and it is good all around and just like it winning last year it was all in the rider so i can wait to see how the new suzuki 450 will be like